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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Resolved Paperweight Queries => Topic started by: boxed on September 17, 2014, 03:19:22 PM
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Hi guys
I have this large glass paperweight that i have no idea maker style etc if any can help fill in the blanks that would be great :)
Ps it has a crack along the side and bottom (described as a flaw by auction) :(
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Hi guys
Image 2
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And image 3
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Hi,
Welcome to the board.
It is difficult to tell with such small pictures but I guess Ysart bros.
KevinH will tell us more I am sure
SophieB
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Hi
I struggled to get them any larger
Then the ones posted any ideas in how to enlarge images?
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Hi, welcome to the Board.
We really need to see larger photos - 700 pixels width is fine for attaching here, as long as Kb size is less than 125 Kb per image. And you can add up to 4 images per post as long as the total Kb size is under 500 Kb.
We also like to have info on the size of items. For regular weights, diameter and height are usual.
I have an idea about the maker of your weight but I really need to see larger images for more detail. And a pic of the base taken at an angle - as well as the straight on image, would be useful.
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If you have problems with loading images, then send your originals to me, via my email icon to the left, and I will sort them out for you.
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hi
thanks for letting me know what you need,problem might be mobile uploads so will try on pc
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hope this is ok
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image2
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image3
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thankyou for the welcolme and for tips on uploading images
tried to send you images kevin but diddnt know how to attach them
regards
b
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So sorry forgot the dimensions
they are 3inches x 3inches and 111/2 inches around
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Hi kevin
I got the width wrong its actually 31/2inches and 3 inches wide and 111/2 inches around
hope this helps
b
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Thanks for the new images and the sizes.
I have looked at enlarged copies of the new photos and my view is that this is a Paul Ysart weight from the 1930s period.
It certainly has a complex cane that I have so far only seen in work by Paul, rather than his father or brothers. That cane is a bundle of 16 canes within a white sleeve coated in green and formed with 16 outer ribs. It appears at the centre of the lower edge of canes in the photo: "image1c".
Also, the mix of canes and twists is well formed with no obviously unintentional air bubbles among or over the elements. The design, with 1 central and 8 peripheral intentional bubbles over a "scrambled" ground of canes is known as "Harlequin".
The strong purple tint to the dome is a feature known in various "early Ysart" weights and is most likely a result of excess manganese (a decolourant) in the glass batch. It may also have been effected by sunlight, which can, in more extreme cases, cause "soda glass with manganese" to turn purple.
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Hi Kevin,
Ah! Well!! Got that one wrong!! ::)
I did wonder about an attribution to PY but was not convinced by the images...
Sophie
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In my opinion defenitly Paul Ysart.
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Hi guys
Thankyou for all comments
Quick question - Is it possible to have the paperweight fixed
Abd if so is it expensive?
Regards
B
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Fixing a crack in a solid piece of glass is not really viable. It could even cause further problems.
The crack will probably have formed as a result of internal stresses (*) being released, perhaps by an impact or a sudden and extensive change in temperature.
Often, cracks in weights, especially in the base, will remain stable. Sometimes they will extend further. It depends on whether or not all of the stresses have been released.
(*) Stresses in glass are normally released during the gradual, controlled cooling process. But sometimes stresses remain - and are not noticeable until a crack occurs.
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Hi. Paul Ysart paperweights from the 1930s, especially the rather tinted glass ones, seem prone to cracking. I don't think they were always annealed properly. It is always important to check the base of seemingly sound Ysart paperweights from this era, as quite a few have cracks radiating from the pontil mark. Repeated heating and cooling during the day/night cycle, or even getting water into the cracks can lead to these growing. (I think water can affect the surface energy needed for Griffith crack growth, but it is a complicated subject). I have heard of 3 people who have had Paul Ysart weights crack in two (or more) whilst the weights were just sitting in a display cabinet.
People have tried various ways to repair them...but I have yet to hear of anyone succeeding. I think that once they are cracked, that is the end of it. If they look good on display, great, but the market value is negligible.
Alan
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Hi
thankyou for letting me know info regarding the crack
i must say really disappointed with auction house who described it as a "flaw"
with out sounding a bit mercinary i did buy to sell as a friend said glass is good
to get into anyway we live and learn
ps
i do find the subject intresting and they do look great
regards
b
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I would try returning it to the auction house...
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Hi guys
just a quick update- as suggested i contacted the auction house and the outcome was
They sent pictures and a condition report so it was my choice to bid
So i suppose my own fault for not knowing what to look for :(
I did notice a mark in an image just presumed it was a "flaw" from the making process
anyway thankyou for comments and advice :)
regards
B
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Maybe I missed it, but where is the crack and how noticeable is it? It is hard to tell with the dark pictures. You don't say what you paid, but if it was substantial, I would expect a well known auction house to admit their mistake and accept a return. A visible crack is more than a flaw.
For value, if it displays well, enjoy it. If you sell it, it should not bring more than 10% of the value without the crack. There are exceptions if the crack is visible only from the side and the paperweight is especially nice.
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Thanks Alan for letting me know what options i have also it came with four
other paperweights
Two i now know to be isle of white,one signed "roger tye "
One is a scultured piece think name is "stuart kade" very hard to make out
i will probably keep the harlequin as it looks good and try a gain some cash back for the rest
I think
all my best
B :)
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Hi there,
I am not sure whether you spotted this on Ebay but I thought you may be encouraged by the following result on a cracked Paul Ysart weight (see below):
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141414969159?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
The result surprised me a little. However, the weight is on a white ground which is a rare colour and the crack cannot be seen from either the top or the side.
SophieB
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Hi sophie
i didnt see this to be honest i think the crack on mine is larger but still gives hope to get my money back one day
i did buy and sell paperweights about two years ago but just did it for cash without taking the time to learn and appreciate them as pieces of art anway i suppose we live and learn
thankyou for the message
have a nice day
b