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Title: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: keith on September 23, 2014, 06:16:06 PM
5 inches high, moulded with company name to the base,what am I ? if you remember these you're older than me !! poor pic's sorry  ::) ;D
Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: pamela on September 23, 2014, 07:25:34 PM
 ;D
 ODOL mouthwash  (http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/misc/08936.html)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: keith on September 23, 2014, 08:01:46 PM
 :o ooh ! that was quick, well done, ;D ;D
Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 24, 2014, 10:48:33 AM
Short, but neat, thread. :)
Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: pamela on September 24, 2014, 12:00:21 PM
ODOL, established 1893,  is a famous brand in Germany and still produced today. Since 1974 member of SmithKline Beecham Group, now GlaxoSmithKline, UK .

Text is in German only, but interesting images and advertising through the decades  here  (http://love-odol.de/historie.html)

...and certainly yes, I'm older  :-*
Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: keith on September 24, 2014, 01:48:34 PM
Thanks again Pamela, not older surely  ::) what age would this be then, I'm afraid my German never got past counting to 5  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 24, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
My German counting goes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 11.
There are bits missing. :-[
Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: pamela on September 24, 2014, 08:28:39 PM
Keith, thank you for this end of summer puzzle - never thought I should investigate this bottle!  :-*

Found interesting pages CV of K.A. Lingner, inventor and manufacturer of ODOL
http://lingner-archiv.jimdo.com/

 ODOL for collectors' page  (http://lingner-archiv.jimdo.com/odol-f%C3%BCr-sammler/) states that without original label it is nearly impossible to date the bottles. Lots of photos of different labels there  ;)

However, bottles with screw cap are post 1936 which means that yours is PRE 1936 (same as mine, my smaller 'travel size' bottles with Bakelit cap are younger).

The archive does not mention the base mark at all  :-X

Bottles (Patent 75789)
quote
Unbestritten stellt die Form der Odol-Flasche eine einmalige Synthese zwischen Funktionalität, Design und Wiedererkennungswert dar.
(google translate: Undeniably, the shape of the Odol bottle represents a unique synthesis between functionality, design and brand recognition.)
unquote

manufactured by:
at the start: Glashütte von Mün­zel & Palme in Röhrsdorf,
from 1895 Glas­hütte Trassel in Ober-Warmensteinach und in Schön­thal (Bohemia)
from 1906 in Immenreuth
Furthermore, the Lingner works possessed glassworks in Brand-Erbisdorf and in Bodenbach.

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Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: keith on September 24, 2014, 11:09:58 PM
Again thanks Pamela, interesting info' I may go back and get the tiny one the dealer had, ;D ;D
Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: pamela on September 26, 2014, 07:04:49 PM
Verified today that also the small bottles bear the ODOL mark under the base.
Keith, did you get the small one, too?

Meanwhile, I contacted Dr. Ulf Funke, author of the Lingner archive pages, regarding the base mark and whether it could help to date the label-less bottles. I'll let you know further results.

 ;D
Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: keith on September 26, 2014, 07:13:17 PM
Not yet, it might be a while before I get back there, if it's still there I will get it, ;D ;D
Title: Re: End of summer puzzle !
Post by: pamela on September 28, 2014, 07:25:01 AM
Received Dr. Funke's reply as follows:

The 'ODOL' base mark does not help to determine the age of bottles. It appears earlier than 1912 and even after 1945.

Some very early bottles show a pressed "DR Patent" (Deutsches Reich Patent).

Pre-1945 bottles without mark are only known as advertising items and are of ceramic material.

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