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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: Alsretro on September 28, 2014, 08:42:42 PM
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Not something I know much about but the cane comprising the central ring of canes looks to be the same as one identified as a Paul Ysart cane in this gallery picture http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-16598 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-16598)
I know one similar cane doesn't prove much but.....
This weight of mine weighs 399g, is 2 3/4ins wide and 2ins high. I do wonder if it has been polished down. ID help would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Alastair
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Hi Alastair,
IMHO, this weight is not by Paul Ysart. I would label it as Ysart bros. The cane you refer to is indeed in a number of PY weights - albeit in a slightly different colour (see image of one of mine). However, it is a simple cane that all the Ysarts could have produced...
Still I am sure KevinH will tell you more about it (and will correct my mistakes if necessary ;))
SophieB
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Hi. I agree with SophieB - it looks like an Ysart Bros piece rather than a Paul Ysart one. The profile and blue-grey tint to the glass are consistent with Ysart Bros pieces.
Alan
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Thanks both of you for the advice. I agree Sophie that the one I was focussing on is very simple but with others being more complex, although fairly imprecise, I did wonder. The story was that I saw this at a car boot sale - didn't buy it but then thought better and went back for it - just didn't want to think I had wasted my 200yd return walk. I don't think I have really :D
Alastair
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It was definitely worth the walk!! ;D
SophieB
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Additional info that may help to decide if a weight is by Paul Ysart or not ...
1. If the central motif is a 3- or 4-cane group (i.e. without an obvious central cane) then the item is extremely unlikely to be by Paul Ysart. This applies to any millefiori design, not just "spoke patterns".
Paul did use a motif of a central 6-cane group (3 larger and 3 smaller canes, alternating) but the 3- and 4-cane group is a regular feature of Ysart Brothers (Vasart) and later Vasart Ltd items.
2. In a weight with twist canes, if the twists are "ribbons" (i.e. twisted flattened canes, usually with 2 or 3 colours set symmetrically) then the item is more likely to be Ysart Brothers (Vasart) or later Vasart Ltd and following on through Stratearn, Perthshire Paperweights etc.
Paul Ysart used some "ribbon twists", mostly in conjunction with regular twists canes (in such as larger spaced concentric designs with twists used as part of a full concentric ring) or as part of a "scrambled" or "mixed cane and twists" design. Also, of the ones I have seen, all of the ribbon twists have been "chunky" and had thick threads of brightly contrasting colour.
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Many thanks, Kevin. This is really interesting and very useful.
SophieB
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Yes - thanks Kevin for that additional information.
Alastair