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Title: russian green art deco? bowl
Post by: Drinkwater on September 30, 2014, 09:40:14 AM

This bowl mesures 23 cm/ 10 cm and has 14 facettes.

There is no sign on it. I suggest Moser, Meyr's Neffe or Haida. Is there anybody out there who knows something about this extremly heavy (1,99 kg) thing?

Title: Re: russian green art deco? bowl
Post by: Ivo on September 30, 2014, 12:02:57 PM

Panel cutting was very much en vogue in the 1930s and there were many companies who indulged in it - most of which unknown and unfamous.  I very much doubt if you'll be able to pin a name to it....

Title: Re: russian green art deco? bowl
Post by: Drinkwater on October 18, 2014, 02:18:24 PM

that looks similar, but it has got less facettes:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Groe-Josef-Hoffmann-Aufsatzschale-Bezeichnet-Wiener-Werkstatte-/361078346408 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Groe-Josef-Hoffmann-Aufsatzschale-Bezeichnet-Wiener-Werkstatte-/361078346408)
But the rim is made in the same style.

I can not see any description on ebay. Is it a transmission faillure and can anybody else see a description, size etc.

Thanks.

Title: Re: russian green art deco? bowl
Post by: flying free on October 18, 2014, 06:11:58 PM

As far as I can translate the German description, I think it says it was made  by Meyr's Neffe and designed by Joseph Hoffman Wiener Werkstatte around 1916.  It gives height as 70mm and diameter of 183mm.
I have no idea if that description is correct. 
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Title: Re: russian green art deco? bowl
Post by: Ivo on October 18, 2014, 07:03:23 PM

It is also marked with the WW stamp, which is a giveaway.  The description would be correct for the blue bowl. The green one, however.....    and as for the rim, all panel cut glass is finished that way. 

Title: Re: russian green art deco? bowl
Post by: flying free on October 18, 2014, 07:11:40 PM

thanks Ivo and apologies I missed the mark :)

I guess it's very difficult to pinpoint these pieces.  The green one seems to be thinner and of a different shape to the blue.
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Title: Re: russian green art deco? bowl
Post by: Drinkwater on October 18, 2014, 08:37:15 PM

yes, it has a different shape.  But it is as thick as the one offered on ebay. May be good, may be anything, i know.

Perhaps it is not marked because of a great bubble in the glass.
Perhaps it is Josephinenhütte.

Thank a lot for your interest instead of the bad photos.

Title: Re: russian green art deco? bowl
Post by: flying free on October 18, 2014, 08:50:44 PM

I think it might be difficult to pin point the maker for your bowl (I'm still trying to id a perfume that is panel cut amethyst and also has even
been decorated, but no luck :) )

Your bowl is elegant and at nearly 2kg that's quite a hefty size.  I hope the WW lead might help you id it at some point -perhaps using the shape and the size to help.
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Title: Re: russian green art deco? bowl
Post by: flying free on October 21, 2014, 12:39:02 PM

Adolf Rasche might be another name to investigate.
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