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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Gary on October 08, 2014, 06:41:45 PM
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My latest piece of Monart is this shape HI colour code 248B and stands 7 inches tall. There is 20 bluey/green stripes top to bottom with all over gold aventurine and bubble inclusions and some clear glass. Also it is uranium glass, the base and the handle shows up best.
Gary
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;) Now you just need life to give you some lemons...
not really! :o :-*
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;) Now you just need life to give you some lemons...
not really! :o :-*
Cheers Sue ;D
Some poor quality pictures taken with a small hand held UV torch.
Gary
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;D
Those are quite "spooky" pictures, might be something unusual for the gmb calendar!
An unusual and scarce thing on more than one count. Well done. :)
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Oh - nice find Gary :P ;) very jealous, a rarity to find this shape!
Love the uranium glow.
For some reason I keep thinking of it as a creamer about 4" high, even though I KNOW it's bigger!
Now I do want to see pictures of the Vase too (but I don't think either of us are bothered about the pink bowl) ;D
By the way, love the lampshades - right sort of house for them to be displayed by the looks of it.
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Yikes!! I was going to bid on this one, but when the condition report came through it said it was damaged, obviously NOT!!!! Anyway here's a picture of my shape HI.
Mary
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Of course you could always reduce it in size add some canes and a bowl to match and voila you have a Cream and Sugar bowl. ;)
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Minus the applied foot of course ;D
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That's the size I keep thinking of!
Wow, they are lovely and I would imagine rather rare - and you've got a matching set! ;D ;D
I'm feeling left out now that I haven't got one yet :'( - still now that Gary's got one I might have a chance - I was also bidding on the jug he got !
All three are such lovely things - I'd be hard pressed to choose between them.
I did manage to get a pretty little Y bowl - I'll post pic later when my batteries have charged.
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yup was gonna bid aswell on this as in one of my fav colourways but the price with the damage put me off , il hang out until an undamaged one comes along , still a stunning piece,
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Okay, i know it's not a jug, but this is what I did get from the auction - a shape Y smallest size XIII 3" "pin dish" in a lovely colourway - I don't know the code but i think it's the same colour as the BB shape in Perth museum.
Base shot was blurred but it has the typical pontil mark and ground outer rim.
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Okay, i know it's not a jug, but this is what I did get from the auction - a shape Y smallest size XIII 3" "pin dish" in a lovely colourway - I don't know the code but i think it's the same colour as the BB shape in Perth museum.
Base shot was blurred but it has the typical pontil mark and ground outer rim.
nice colourway
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I committed the cardinal sin, I never viewed or asked for a condition report. There is 3 small bruises on the inside base and 2 very small annealing cracks on the side of the jug.
But I am still well pleased with it, the jug technically has just about everthing you could ask for in a piece of Monart, an applied foot, a coloured applied handle, coloured stripes (20), bubble inclusions and uranium glass.
I believe the colour code is 390 for your pin dish. The same as the OE vase below which I bought along with the jug.
Gary
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Yep - I think you are correct - my first thought was that colour code but compared to my bowl in that colour (much subtler colours) it looks a lot brighter, but seeing the pics of your vase it is the same. I still think they were probably together (i.e. came from the same collection) but got put into different lots - if your vase wasn't labelled I don't think Monart would have been mentioned at all !!
I must admit i have also committed that sin and have a couple of unexpected annealing cracks in vases, - but which I still love; but in the case of the jug it isn't very visible damage and it is such a beautiful and rare piece i don't think it matters too much at all ;D
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I committed the cardinal sin, I never viewed or asked for a condition report. There is 3 small bruises on the inside base and 2 very small annealing cracks on the side of the jug.
But I am still well pleased with it, the jug technically has just about everthing you could ask for in a piece of Monart, an applied foot, a coloured applied handle, coloured stripes (20), bubble inclusions and uranium glass.
I believe the colour code is 390 for your pin dish. The same as the OE vase below which I bought along with the jug.
Gary
tut tut I got condition report which stated all damage to jug and the bucket vase , I like the fact the handle is coloured instead of clear
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I take it back, the condition report I received was correct, well that makes me feel a whole lot better, even though it's a lovely jug. I also have a Monart cream jug, it's just 3" tall, unfortunately I DON'T have a sugar bowl ;D.
Did you notice the difference between the two shape HI's where the handle is joined, I believe one is a variant.
Mary
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If you give me your jug Mary I am sure I can find a sugar bowl for you.........in about ten years ;)
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I take it back, the condition report I received was correct, well that makes me feel a whole lot better, even though it's a lovely jug. I also have a Monart cream jug, it's just 3" tall, unfortunately I DON'T have a sugar bowl ;D.
Did you notice the difference between the two shape HI's where the handle is joined, I believe one is a variant.
Mary
You got me looking at the handles, in my one the handle is attached at the top of the jug where as in your one is it further down the jug. There is another difference in the top of the jugs.
Your jug has a deeper angle from the spout to the back of jug than my one.
The first image is reproduced with the kind permission of Mary.
The jug shown on page 67 of YSART GLASS and listed as HI appears wrong IMHO, it more resembles VH.
I love both them creamers.
Gary
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Yes Keith and I know which jug you'd prefer - but I don't think so. The creamer is really nice, but the HI is really rather special. I know Salvador was a craftsman, but I always think when a piece has been perfectly executed it might well be a piece by Paul. Now I'll wait to be shot down in flames!!!!!
Mary
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I believe handles can be quite difficult to apply.
I asked Allistair Malcolm to make a claret jug for me, we designed the shape together and he made it - but the first time he tried to get the handle on - which has to be done after the body has been made, it went all wonky and took itself off into two loops rather than one.
Allistair is by no means an inexperienced maker, he can do things with glass nobody has even thought of doing before.
He had to make another jug for me, to get the handle right. I believe the one that went wrong is on display in Broadfield House.
So I would think it might just be a matter of how the glass happened to be functioning on the day, with that maker, whether or not a handle would be applied in any uniform or consistent manner. It's not as if jugs were any sort of main production at Monart - they might just be inexperienced at the complexities of handle formation.
It would be too much to expect angles to be the same or, placings of the top and bottom parts either.