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Title: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 12, 2014, 02:09:16 PM
I bought this yesterday. I had seen it before, (not the signature though!) but as a certain gentleman was "hovering" over me, daring me to buy any glass whatsoever at all, I left it behind.
But I went back yesterday and had a slightly better look and decided it was nice enough to pop in my brother's yultide stocking for putting trifle in.

While cleaning it up at home, I was starting to suspect a rock-crystal beast, rather than just cut crystal; and one of the dirty bits suddenly turned into a legible J. Lloyd.

It's *not* going in my brother's yuletide stocking!

It's a post-war thing, the mark has the Made in England surrounding the Tudor.
Nightmare to photgraph. It's a nightmare to wash and dry too. I've gone right off it already, so I will not be using it for trifle either.

There are very deep "monumental" cuts, but also some very fine intaglio work, which does not show up well.
Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: Paul S. on October 13, 2014, 09:03:11 AM
very nice bowl Sue - but I feel so sorry for your brother who will not now have the wonderful experience of owning a Jack Lloyd signed bowl made in Tudor England ;D

I've added a couple of links to earlier Board posts - the first one being more interesting and you'll see there another bowl shown by Bernard.

The second link is simply to show - although not too clearly - his signature on a piece I have.

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,36393.msg197966.html#msg197966
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,46053.msg258729.html#msg258729

We don't get too much Jack Lloyd surfacing on the GMB these days, perhaps it is now all salted away in private collections, but well spotted and great piece. :)

Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 13, 2014, 09:52:36 AM
I did do a big search here before posting, but I didn't encounter the second link, Paul, thanks very much indeed.  :-*
I see I have posted a pic of one of my Tudor thistle wineglasses there too.
I have never seen anything else in the thistles, apart from a mini champagne coup I found earlier on this year. I have searched for them over the years. They are not pre-war, Made in England surrounds the Tudor mark.
I've got a really pretty Tudor confiture, cutting is a bit unusual, will have to take its pic. for you, Paul.
Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: Paul S. on October 13, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
thanks  -  look forward with anticipation to seeing your confiture :-*
Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 13, 2014, 01:09:33 PM
I hate trying to photograph cut stuff!  :P
So please excuse odd angles and backgrounds as I tried to get the lenses to show up!
There are 4 lenses cut onto each of the corners.
Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 13, 2014, 01:13:56 PM
 :)
While I was at it, I got hold of my glasses too.
Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: David E on October 13, 2014, 04:39:13 PM
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decided it was nice enough to pop in my brother's yultide stocking
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It's *not* going in my brother's yuletide stocking!

Either way, let's hope Dee doesn't spot this thread then!  ;D
Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 13, 2014, 04:54:44 PM
 ;D
You know me, David, cannot keep my trap shut about my own excitements. (M is just useless, at least Dee *understands*.)
I've already sent him a link so he can see the pics, that was one of the first things I did as soon as I had posted.
He knows.  :)
Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: David E on October 13, 2014, 05:18:45 PM
It's funny, but we had a meal with Gejus (who was at my birthday party, as well as Denis and Dee) yesterday evening and he thought Dee was my son!!! Not quite sure if that's a compliment for Dee, being just 10 years younger, or derogative to me, for looking so ancient.  ;D
Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 13, 2014, 05:23:58 PM
Dee always looks good.  ::)

I'm sure he has a secret portrait hidden away in an attic somewhere that is looks utterly disgusting... something along the lines of how revolting my hand looks in the last image of the confiture while holding it up to the sky.

(It's not really that wrinkly - it looks at least 50 years younger right now. I had just been doing a load of washing up, it's waterlogged.)
Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: Paul S. on October 13, 2014, 08:26:50 PM
thanks for posting the pix of the confiture Sue  -  it's very unusual with flat sides and lenses cut on the apex of the corners - nice piece.

I enjoyed the film with Dennis Price - very good, and very eerie.             Remember the ad...........   'hands that do dishes can be soft as three wishes'............. :)
Title: Re: Jack Lloyd signed trifle bowl for show.
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 14, 2014, 10:53:05 AM
The bowl of the confiture is free-blown and shaped, it is also quite fine.
It can't have been easy getting lenses cut onto the corners - that's an area where internal stresses and weaknesses can be created and come into play.

It's a very pretty and delicate thing.

My pics of the thistle glasses do not show them at all well. >:(

I do find one of the best ways to get a cut to show up IS to hold it up against a grey sky.  :-\