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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: agincourt17 on October 14, 2014, 04:38:55 PM
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On plate 7 of Shelagh Murray’s book “The Peacock and the Lions – The Story of Pressed Glass in the North East of England’ there is shown
Cauldron-shaped jet basin (probably Scottish) with thistle pattern mark, and jug. Basin 9cm high. Jug 7cm high.
Unmarked similar pieces are not uncommonly seen (often attributed to Davidson or Sowerby, though I know of no definitive evidence for those putative attributions).
Now here are some photos of a pressed glass mug or can in transparent blue glass, marked with a thistle mark (partial in places ) on its base. The sides of the piece are decorated with a pattern very similar to Davidson’s 1885 hobnail pattern BUT overlaid with a chain of loops or swags. It measures 10cms high with a 9cms diameter top and bottom and weighs 478 grams.
(Permission for the re-use of these images on the GMB granted by Kevin Collins).
I note that a thistle’ mark is mentioned in reply #3 onwards of
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,22778.msg128678.html#msg128678
in connection with
A. M. Allan & Co., 1867 - 1907 ?? Forth Glass Works, Firhill, Glasgow, Pressed glass bottles, medical bottles.
In the same topic thread, Chris Stewart also mentions a possible connection between a ‘cauldron’ basin and Davidson, and that Davidson may have bought some of Allan’s moulds.
Does anyone have any more information about this (or any other) ‘thistle’ mark, please?
Does anyone have any photos to show of other pieces bearing a ‘thistle’ mark, please?
Fred.
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Hi,
My fathers been on about this thistle mark for years, attached are the three items you can find on eBay and sometime attributed to Davidson.
Did anyone find out who the manufacturer was, so I can clear my fathers curiosity.
Thanks
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Allan's certainly produced pressed glassware - their entry from the 1883 Cork Exhibition Catalogue mentions it...
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From:
https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/A._M._Allan_and_Co
A. M. Allan and Co.of The Forth Glass Works, Panmure Street, Glasgow
1868 Company established by R. B. Watson. Continued as R. B. Watson and Co, Ellis, Allan and Co and A. M. Allan and Co.
1914 Glass manufacturers. Specialities: table ware, ship side lights and deck lights. Employees 70.
and from:
https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/1914_Who's_Who_in_Business:_Company_A
ALLAN, A. M., & CO., Glass Manufacturers, The Forth Glass Works, Panmure Street, Glasgow. Hours of Business: 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Established in 1868 by R. B. Watson. Continued by (1) R. B. Watson & Co.; (2) Ellis, Allan & Co.; (3) A. M. Allan & Co. Present Principals: Alexander M. Allan and Stephen S. Allan. Premises: Cover one acre. Staff: Seventy. Specialities: Table Ware, also Ship Side Lights and Deck Lights. Connection: United Kingdom, Foreign, Colonial. Telephone: No. 14 Kelvin. Telegraphic Address: " Tumbler, Glasgow."
https://www.sgt.org/wp-content/uploads/jsgt/JSGT_1918%20Proceedings.pdf
shows that Alexander M. Allan was a member of the Society of Glass Technology in 1918.
Fred.
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Thanks Anne/Fred, that's great.
I've managed to resolve quite a few of our unknown pieces from this forums previous posts and gallery and very grateful for the help of everyone's comments. We are slowly working through a list of 200 or more pieces. And it's getting smaller every week and not looking such a daunting task.
At the beginning of January we had a list 1450 pieces that I have transferred onto a computer only to keep being introduced to boxes of additional items not listed..
Thanks