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Title: Ruby Pressed? Creamer with star to base , Victorian ?
Post by: davem on October 23, 2014, 02:20:16 PM
Hi , Can someone please help to ID the maker of this Creamer Please , It is 4" high and has a stippled and criss cross pattern.
There is a star design to it's base . Is this Victorian or later ?
Many thanks , Dave.
Title: Re: Ruby Pressed? Creamer with star to base , Victorian ?
Post by: Paul S. on October 24, 2014, 07:53:44 AM
working on the assumption that 'good advice' should be shared, then the following may be of interest to collectors of pressed red glass.

Raymond Notley  -  author and acknowledged expert on popular glass of the C19 and C20 centuries, comments on this type of glass in particular in his book of the same title, as follows  ........

""Red pressed glass - beware of imitations.    Red and blue pressed glass items are collectable in their own right.            While blue examples go back to the early 19thC, pressed red glass was technically viable only from the 1920's.     Do not buy pressed red glass as 'Victorian', even if it looks old-fashioned and quaint  -  it isn't.""

Notley qualifies his comments in his book that gold was necessary to produce the red in glass up to c. 1920, after which selenium and copper began to be used.     He adds that 'most pressed red glass around today is post 1924'.

The clear extremity of the lip to this creamer is unusual.



Title: Re: Ruby Pressed? Creamer with star to base , Victorian ?
Post by: pamela on October 24, 2014, 08:28:19 AM
The colour leeds to Denmark, I vote for  Fyens Aalborg 1924  (http://www.glashistoriskselskab.dk/index.php/Glashistorisk-Museum/Sukker-og-floedesaet/Pressede-Sukkerstel/Sukkerstel-1924-1294)
The lip of Dave's creamer is yellow, I believe, depending on too high (or low ?) temperature.

Similar pattern Brockwitz (who also produced this colour)  KOPENHAGEN  (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Brockwitz-1915.66+B6YmFja1BJRD02NiZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjU1NyZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD02NiZkZXRhaWw9.0.html) but different handle.

 :)
Title: Re: Ruby Pressed? Creamer with star to base , Victorian ?
Post by: davem on October 24, 2014, 08:54:38 AM
That's very interesting Paul , I thought this was a Victorian shape but wasn't sure . I always research my items before I come here for advice and to learn .

Fyens Aalborg 1924 looks spot on Pamela , the one in the link also looks to have the yellow around the rim , whereas the Brockwitz looks to have the addition of indentations to the criss cross pattern ...

Thanks very much for your help here , Dave.
Title: Re: Ruby Pressed? Creamer with star to base , Victorian ?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 24, 2014, 11:12:27 AM
Good tip Paul
It is a Victorian shape but if you look at many of the pressed glass catalogues you'd be hard put to tell a 1920s catalogue from an 1890s. Things changed quite a lot in the 1930s and then often reverted again after the war. Many designs had very long lives with their original owners and have since been reissued or recycled to meet design trends or their basic concepts have been applied to new items aiming for Victorian style. It's a minefield.
Title: Re: Ruby Pressed? Creamer with star to base , Victorian ?
Post by: Ohio on October 24, 2014, 04:07:31 PM
If this were a U.S. collector the very first thing I would think is its a reproduction using an old EAPG mold by someone like L.E. Smith. Over here with the thousands of old EAPG molds that have been laying around for decade after decade & been placed back in production using colors instead of the original colorless gather, well design, shape, etc. victorian or not means next to nothing, but in Europe its probably a different situation.