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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Oliverodner on October 25, 2014, 03:10:06 PM
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Thanks
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wassiygry2zw04l/Photo%2025-10-2014%2015%2022%2018.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/awedldxx7dbh4qx/Photo%2025-10-2014%2015%2022%2051.jpg?dl=0
I'll soon be heading to the pub so no rush on these. Are they common or interesting? What do you guys think?
Thanks
Oliver
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Hi, welcome to the gmb! :)
It would be very much appreciated if you would be kind enough to post your images directly to the board.
There is a whole load of techie info and help here;
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/board,22.0.html
Images hosted elsewhere have a habit of disappearing, leaving a thread empty of an illustration and so useless for our records and for future research for others.
We do not tend to discuss values here - they are far too subjective in the secondary market. Something is only worth what somebody is willing to pay for it, in that place, at that time.
You might be able to get a ballpark figure by searching sold items in on-line auctions. :)
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Hi Sue
I must respect your decision to offer me no help whatsoever here, but feel its a shame really. Equally shameful is the era specific relativism masking nihilism you have as your quote. After Kaufmann and Gadamer it's accepted in the academic world a compromise with utopia aught to be made on the basis of contingency - or else I would endlessly doubt the existence of this email we see in front of us. Generalising becomes an acceptable practice politically again, as it was before we doubted. ;-)
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How rude
You've had IDs for two of your items in a few hours. Did you read this before you started posting http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6521.msg55556.html#msg55556
All I can say is that they must serve bothery good stuff at your pub. If you wish an appraisal for insurance purposes, there are plenty of paid services run by people receiving a wage for doing so.
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I would not be able to help with Scandanvian glass.
I was trying to help you get your post better organised, to help you get a response from somebody else.
I responded to be friendly, explain the board a bit better and to welcome you.
I shouldn't have bothered.
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:o :o :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well.......... I'm speechless!!!!! ::)
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I apologize sincerely if I wasn't taken with the jesting tone I thought was apparent; if I came across rudely. But the Nietzsche quote juxtaposed with the response appeared to me to imply "what crap you make us deal with!"
I do hope no hard feelings - we have lots of glass here - I honestly have no clue if it's any good but they were my grandfathers prized possessions.
I greatly appreciate the kindness that has been shown to me here, and sincerely hope we can be "friends" on here, if such a thing is more than a clichéd tv show :-)
I just wish it wasn't only my PHD friends and professors who catch my tone and find me amusing, as intended!
Thanks anyway!
Oliver
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Not funny on an academic or any other level, I assure you.
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I thought it was a joke because of the winking smiley face in the post but looks like im the only one who thought so ,
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You knew what it was, I must admit that I did not!
For many members of this forum English is not their native tongue. Typing a few lines of text and having it read by a bunch of strangers is a completely different situation to joking with people who already know you. It is so easy to get the wrong end of the stick or pick up on some minor point when we don't have the benefit of familiarity, let alone facial expression and body language. All that nuance is missing, clarity helps an awful lot when all you have is that few lines of text...
John
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I thought that Sue's response came across as being very helpful for a new person on the forum, trying to help him understand how best to get a good response. I also thought that Oliver's first response was more than a rude response to her kindness, it also came across as somewhat arrogant. I was initially willing to accept Oliver's apology in his second post, but then he went on to add an arrogant comment that implies that those who take umbrage are either not as well educated as his friends or do not understand subtle humor. This is not the case and if one comes to this forum and gets to know the people here with an open a friendly approach I can assure that such a person would soon learn that there is a range of people here who share a common interest in glass, including some who have very substantial academic achievements from the world's most prestigious universities. Writing in plain English to express complicated ideas is often more difficult than bloviating which does not come across well on a forum where one's body language and tone of voice are absent making inadvertent miscommunication more likely.
I am open to pressing a re-set button on my initial negative reaction to these posts if Oliver would like to do so. A good place to start might be to follow the basic protocol of this forum by providing the photos directly into this thread as Sue suggested.
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Academically speaking, Sue is a scientist. 8)
Philosophy is not something I take much interest in. It's just word games and semantics. It can be fun, but it hasn't really progressed very much in the last 3,000 years, has it?
I merely used one vague truism that philosophy has succeeded in articulating because it was relevant to the notion of expecting one's glass to hold it's value or price, or to take into account when reading newspaper articles or books that the information in them could well be wrong.
As it happened, I changed my quote before this even erupted. I found one on friday I thought would make a change. I can't even spell Neitshch in order to track the old one down again. I've never even heard of the other names dropped in the OPs post.
Many new folk do not bother reading the forum introduction and launch straight into posting, using links to show their images, as the OP here did.
Somebody here has to take on the onerous job with the loads of newbies, asking them politely to read the introduction and to post images directly.
Not everybody has the time or inclination to do it all when first responding. It does get very tedious.
I just took it upon myself to do it in this case.
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Oliver you need to be less precious about the responses you make. How do you think I felt when I was told I had a pottery piece when I had been collecting glass for 30 years or so. I got a little sarcastic I admit but after calming down posted more photos that showed it actually was glass. Clever remarks are not what we use this board for. I revel in having a community likely to help me - even years later.
Please respect these people for the experts they are - not the semantics they may occasionally use. If you want to see an example of what is possible see near the top of the Glass section under the section for unattributed glass an entry under my GMB name(ahremck). Another Australian expert has cleared up a mystery for me. I respect his advice enormously because I know how carefully he researches things.
Ross