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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: petet63 on November 15, 2014, 05:00:48 PM
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Hi all. I need some help with this tall glass. From my limited German and Google I get 'Exhibition iv Hamburg' from 'Ausstellung iv Hamburg' but cannot find anything relating to an exhibition in 1904. I could be wrong on the date of course as the iv could be something else 'iu' maybe ?. It has a ring to it and is 16.5cm in height with a lip diameter of 7.5cm. Thanks
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Base shot
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The cutting and engraving is beautiful and so precise, some real skill involved Pete.
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Thanks Chris. It is a cut above the others I have had on here ;D I am being drawn to antique glasses more and more lately ! I seem to have accumulated a number of them that is slowly turning into a small Collection! I just cant seem to list the 'favourites' amongst them.
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Imagine trying to get the writing in line, the correct gap between each letter without cocking it up, would take a real craftsman to have the nerve and experience to make a glass like that, try getting someone to do that today under 400 quid.
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Lovely piece!
Just a question, doesn't it just read 'Ausstellung in Hamburg'?
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Thats a thought lol. the 'u' and 'n' do seem to be identical.
The vertical and horizontal lines in the smallest windows in the top are perfect as well. Not had time to do more research yet but thanks for the comments so far.
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They probably didn't do such things totally freehand. There was likely some marking up first
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for further information you could get in contact with:
http://www.lichtwarkgesellschaft.de/ (http://www.lichtwarkgesellschaft.de/). They had exhibitions every year.
I am living in Hamburg but I didn't saw this building on any picture or photo. Perhaps it's a project for the garden exhibition in 1906.
Or there you will get all information you need:
http://www.patriotische-gesellschaft.de/ (http://www.patriotische-gesellschaft.de/)
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is it at all possible it was engraved as a glass from Hamburg but with the building on it being where the exhibition was held? therefore it might not be Hamburg but might be another country?
The one closest I think it could be might be the Glasgow exhibition of Science and Industry 1888
building here - check out the windows on the right of the main entrance and check out the spires
It could also be an 'artists' depiction' of the building rather than an exact replica?
http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/File:Im18880504E-Glas.jpg
Hope this helps a bit.
m
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I still think it was in Hamburg. That 'iv' means perhaps 4th exhibition.
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The Hamburgischer Künstlerclub hold exhibitions. He was founded in the 'Cafe Felber' 1897 located on the exhibition ground of the 'Gartenbauausstellung 1897' in Hamburg.
Here is a link http://www.ebay.de/itm/schone-Lithographie-Hamburg-Gartenbau-Ausstellung-1897-Gesamtansicht-1897-/311173877730?pt=Ansichtskarte_Zubehör&hash=item4873688fe2 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/schone-Lithographie-Hamburg-Gartenbau-Ausstellung-1897-Gesamtansicht-1897-/311173877730?pt=Ansichtskarte_Zubehör&hash=item4873688fe2)
I am sure the house on the glass was located on that ground. The Künstlerclub also hold yearly exhibitions in the 'Galerie Kommeter/Commeter http://www.commeter.de/ceemes/ (http://www.commeter.de/ceemes/) which still exists.
So far.
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Perhaps :) we will have to agree to differ.
I think the thin vertical poles rising from the turrets are matched in the Graces' link picture I gave as well as the depiction of the building. Also the horizontal lines of the brickwork are depicted well in the engraving.
I am not sure whether the artist will have had a final building to work from in terms of depicting the picture. I think this building was built for the 1888 exhibition, so is it possible that the engraver was working from an architects drawing maybe, so didn't have the full picture of the building to see?
edited to add - Pete please can you add a clear picture of the engraved words and also a picture of each side of the glass? thanks
m
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Best I can do for Pictures. The make up of the building is very similar to the Graces picture. The number of turrets, arched windows etc seem to be in the right place. I know next to nothing on architecture so cant say more than the styles of the buildings are the same. ??? ??? Hope the pictures help.
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Some are taken inside the glass. Thanks all.
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Ausstellung in Hamburg. Thrown by the goths again....
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which as far as I know does mean as Exhibition in Hamburg.
Option 1 - Which would back up Drinkwater's posts that it relates to an exhibition in Hamburg.
So I wonder if a 'mini' size building (pavilion?) was made later on for the Hamburg exhibition (exposition?) to replicate in some way, the Glasgow building.
Option 2 - However, the depiction is very similar to the Grace's picture of the Glasgow exhibition building.
Option 3 - perhaps it really is just a very similar building and nothing to do with the Glasgow exhibition 1888 or it's building.
m
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Did they build these places for the Exhibitions? Are they still Standing? I would have thought that with the wording it would be a building in Hamburg?? I couldn't find anything to date exhibitions in Hamburg. I have heard of these exhibitions before like one held in London 1851. I have tried following that link but not one held in Hamburg. ??? It just brings up more questions than answers. I will look into the links provided and see where that goes. Thanks
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I am listing this Glass if anyone is interested in it. I have gone as far as I can to ID this and or date. Thank you all for the help and information. Much appreciated