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Title: Amethyst vase with blue rim and three blue handles
Post by: glassobsessed on November 16, 2014, 09:09:09 PM

This vase has me stumped and I need help.  My diving rods are twitching over Italy but is it a false positive? And then there is when, it somehow looks 1930s to me but could it be thirty years older and Bohemian?

For what its worth there is plenty of wear, hollow through to the foot so the blue ring below the handles is also applied, 18cm tall, large polished pontil mark.

John

Title: Re: Amethyst vase with blue rim and three blue handles
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 17, 2014, 02:27:39 PM

How heavy is it?
Is it finely blown, with the weight coming mostly from the solid parts?
The amethyst looks like a slightly warm brown, rather than blue shade of it, I don't know if that would help.
I'm clueless and curious. :)

Title: Re: Amethyst vase with blue rim and three blue handles
Post by: Ivo on November 17, 2014, 04:05:30 PM

Perhaps Gordiola or Altare?

Title: Re: Amethyst vase with blue rim and three blue handles
Post by: glassobsessed on November 18, 2014, 09:20:38 AM

Thanks Ivo, not had much time to look into those possibilities yet, hopefully I will tonight.

Sue, the vase is not as thin and light in weight as say a bit of Sofiati, it weighs around 500g. The amethyst is clear cased.

Title: Re: Amethyst vase with blue rim and three blue handles
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 18, 2014, 12:48:28 PM

 ::)
ok, thanks!
Now I'm looking at the images quite differently.
I have now ascertained that in the first image, the blue handle in the centre is behind the vase, not in front; and so it isn't shorter than the other handles, and they are placed evenly around it after all. I hadn't noticed it was cased - so it's a bit more complex than I had first imagined as well as a lot heavier.  :)

Title: Re: Amethyst vase with blue rim and three blue handles
Post by: flying free on November 19, 2014, 08:21:44 AM

Cristallerie Sevres might  also be a possibility.   Especially with the large polished pontil mark.
m

Title: Re: Amethyst vase with blue rim and three blue handles
Post by: flying free on November 19, 2014, 11:07:19 AM

John, there's no pontil mark shown on those in this link (and no firm id either) but yours appears to have some similarities to them
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/136029-pair-horny-harrach--vases

m

Title: Re: Amethyst vase with blue rim and three blue handles
Post by: glassobsessed on November 20, 2014, 09:49:48 AM

Wow, fantastic spot m, thank you. Undoubtedly the same maker as mine (as far as I am concerned). Really interesting to see another example in a differing design, together they help to build a picture, somehow providing each other with a little context. In terms of style I am leaning more towards 1900 than 1930 now, both rims seem quite 'Victorian'.

As to maker Harrach would be nice but I have found nothing so far that would back that up with any rigour. Gordiola seems possible though again no corroboration, I need to look further into Sevres too. I have found very little so far online re Altare, I think I need to search in Italian next. ;D

John