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Title: Inkwell made by??
Post by: Roger H on December 01, 2014, 09:53:45 PM

Hi all, bought this recently as a scottish inkwell.  As a discussion when do you think it was made and by whom??
      Regards Roger.

Title: Re: Inkwell made by??
Post by: orangeglass on December 01, 2014, 10:15:46 PM

My guess would be Ysart brothers or Pirelli - post war, but I'm sure Kevin or someone with more knowledge will be able to give a more definite attribution!  :D

Title: Re: Inkwell made by??
Post by: orangeglass on December 01, 2014, 11:46:05 PM

I missed out the obvious there - Vasart !

Title: Re: Inkwell made by??
Post by: KevinH on December 02, 2014, 05:44:41 PM

First period Vasart (1946 - 1956) - i.e Ysart Brothers Glass (tradename Vasart).

Most likely made by Salvador Ysart, in which case the date would be no later than 1955 or a year or two earlier.

Some bottles like this may have been made by Salvador pre-war ... but so far there is no definite proof of this. But there are several known similar items etched "Vasart" to the base.

Title: Re: Inkwell made by??
Post by: orangeglass on December 02, 2014, 05:48:19 PM

I did wonder if ALL the Ysart Bros pieces were etched Vasart or just some, and if unmarked they were later pieces which would have had labels .

Title: Re: Inkwell made by??
Post by: KevinH on December 02, 2014, 06:19:55 PM

I know of no information that confirms a given period for the use of marks or labels within the Ysart Brothers Glass period.

The majority of "Salvador bottles" like this one are not marked in any way. This is also true of the paperweights from those years. Some items, of course, are etched to the base "Ysart Bros Made in Scotland" (or similar) - as opposed to "Vasart". But I am fairly sure I have not yet seen the "Ysart Bros" mark on any inkwells. I am aware of a couple of inkwells etched "Vasart" and also having a "Y" cane in both the base and stopper. So ... variations of "marks" but no specific clues to a given dating.

Title: Re: Inkwell made by??
Post by: orangeglass on December 02, 2014, 06:26:51 PM

Thanks Kev  :D

Title: Re: Inkwell made by??
Post by: Roger H on December 02, 2014, 08:09:03 PM

Thanks for the info and confirmation of origin. I did a short wave UV test on it which does confirm Ysart Bros as opposed to later vasart period. 
    I bought a verified Ysart bros weight from Alan a while ago and on the base was written "Made in Scotland" but partially ground out probably when making certain it stood level, not on the pontil. This I believe goes along with your info.
    Roger.

Title: Re: Inkwell made by??
Post by: KevinH on December 04, 2014, 01:57:38 PM

Yes Roger, that's one of the variations in etched wording. And visually all of the features of that weight tie in well with the "Ysart Bros" period.