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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: essi on December 24, 2014, 11:53:56 PM
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This bowl measures 8.5 " in diameter and looks similar to the Whitefriars sundae dishes, but I cannot find any reference to a bowl this big.
It is quite heavy and I think it is lead crystal.
Any input would be appreciated.
Tim
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Not Whitefriars Happy Christmas to you and your Lady , see you in New year , Bring some real money for a change . LOL ;D God Jul .
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Ravenhead White Fire
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thanks for the replies, lustrousstone I have added a picture of the base as I can not find any images of ravenhead whitefire that has this base detail . also the ravenhead glass seems to have a lot of vertical lines in the design not the broken ice type design on this bowl.
I take the point that its not whitefriars,maybe Scandinavian?
john, I will see how much money Santa brings to me .see you at knebwoth.
hyvaa joulua
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for what it's worth I can't find the design in Pina's 'Smoke & Ice'. Would agree it does differ from White Fire'.
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Changed my mind; you're right it's not Whitefire
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Tim Whitefriars in the Glacier design seems to have a plain top for 5-7mms before the basic design begins lower on the piece.
Ross
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thanks for the replies.
Ross, is the bowl in the middle picture a w/friars item?.
as you say there is a clear banding at the top, mine does not have that band which made me look closer at the rim of mine.
mine has a cut and flat polished top. not sure its worth doing a rim repair on this type of bowl so maybe they left the factory different widths?
still a bit of a puzzle
thanks again
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The textured patterns do look very similar, is the size correct for a Whitefriars bowl? If so perhaps an after market repair.
John
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yes john the two patterns are the same but as johnphilip says I do not think they are w/friars.
I looked at the old catalogues and images on google and I think their salad bowl is totally different design,but you can see some similarities to their sundae dishes.
lets hope somebody recognizes this pattern.
thanks again
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Essi I will ask Ray tomorrow the guy I asked in the club had downed a few pints and only worked at WFs two years so he may be wrong , some of the ex workers had no interest they may just as well have been making milk bottles and they are all quite elderly now . it was the rigoree or milled edge to the foot that was in doubt .
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thanks for the input john. nothing that big seems to appear in the glacier range but as we have learned with w/friars glass never say never.
thanks again.
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This link might help to show what the Whitefriars examples of the small and large bowl looked like:
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/164143332/whitefriars-vintage-glass-fruit-bowl-six
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Essi that bowl is an M151 and I had it checked out on the GMB plus the dimensions are correct. As I said the rim of each item is nnot patterned for about 5 to 7mms down then the pattern begins.
Ross
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Like Ross says it a M151 fruit bowl 8" diameter 4" came with matching dishes
http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=908
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To ,ross ,rosie and chriss thanks for spelling it out for me I could not find the m151 bowl anywhere (specsavers moment!)
the bowl measures 8.25 inches across
thanks for your help inidentifying the bowl
tim
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I must stop asking drunks . ::) Those must be quite scarce I lived in Whitefriars land 35 years and never seen that one .