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Title: Dark green, frosted - pressed/moulded Perfume bottle. ID = ?
Post by: misha on January 01, 2015, 12:39:50 PM
Perhaps part of a set.. perhaps food packaging?

A very pretty emerald green in good light, satin like effect with that frosted finish.
Interesting shape and feel to this little bottle.
Looks like ground taper at opening, so I suspect perfume bottle use.

Found in regional Western Australia.. maybe it's early Australian production due to the rather crude moulding around base. No visible nor remnants of a manufacturer mark.

105mm H x 50mm W at base x 22mm Dia. top x 15mm Dia. taper to 13mm Dia. opening.

Any ideas what we have here?
Title: Re: Dark green, frosted - pressed/moulded Perfume bottle. ID = ?
Post by: misha on February 14, 2015, 10:53:46 PM
I had a long look through a USA 'history of bottle making' web site and no luck in finding any other bottle like this. From that, it is 'of age' though, given the somewhat crude base moulding characteristics that present - a 3 part mould it seems.
Close inspection has fine mould seam to opening rim.
Heavy at base, thin at opening, yet has the very deep emerald green colour consistent overall.

Correct description is "deep lobed".
There is a degree of shape distortion in some of the images, close range shot taken.
Due to the size and aesthetics I suspect a perfume or scent bottle of some sort, not food. 

Looking for a marble of same colour to sit on top, maybe.
Title: Re: Dark green, frosted - pressed/moulded Perfume bottle. ID = ?
Post by: Frank on February 23, 2015, 02:36:57 PM
Might be a cold surface coating. Try scratching it on base.
Title: Re: Dark green, frosted - pressed/moulded Perfume bottle. ID = ?
Post by: Ivo on February 23, 2015, 03:11:47 PM
usually you can identify fancy bottles here:
http://www.vetreriaetrusca.it/it/default
or here
http://www.kefla.de/
Title: Re: Dark green, frosted - pressed/moulded Perfume bottle. ID = ?
Post by: Frank on February 23, 2015, 11:10:14 PM
See nothing like this there. My think that this was probably commissioned container design and probably outsourced via a marketing/decoration firm.
Title: Re: Dark green, frosted - pressed/moulded Perfume bottle. ID = ?
Post by: misha on February 24, 2015, 04:00:26 AM
Might be a cold surface coating. Try scratching it on base.

Thanks for your input Frank.
I seem to have the slowest internet connection in the World and trolling through image/content rich pages is near impossable currently, so thanks for taking a look too.

Regards 'surface treatment', I tried with a diamond file and no, it is actually solid coloured glass and not a plastic or flashed colour on clear.
In good light I can see a few small bubbles and what appears to be die/mould dilapidation.
You find similar 'dots' on pressed coins due to die pitting, so thats how i assume the same on this.  It's not a design feature.   Same sort of flaw can be seen on base image here, like as if the base 'cup' element of the mould had a scale build up.

I can see glass thickness in body is thinner than base, thinnest in neck region. I see this with strong light inspection. The bottle is very clean, but I see what appears to be very small dark spots in the base region of glass, like some form of trapped contamination in the glass.

The tactile feel comes from the satin external finish and the pretty almost glowing colour effect comes from reflected light off gloss internal finish. There is no glow from UV light.
There is virtually no base wear like 'cabinet rub'.

This was found in regional Western Australia. The region has a history of Italian folks settling there for some time... there was 'new' and 'old' money around there dating back to the mid - late 1800's. 

This known history and features of the glass have me assume it was a perfume bottle 'of age', but absence of wear seems to be a contradiction to that 'age'. :-\

I'll try asking someone on those site links provided by Ivo in time... when I can get to a faster internet.
I don't know if you know we have rather low ranking Internet speeds here in Australia compared to other parts of the World, unless your very lucky to have fibre at home... but thats another subject that could turn into a nasty 'political' argument.   :(