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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: rocco on January 21, 2015, 05:57:39 PM

Title: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: rocco on January 21, 2015, 05:57:39 PM

I don't know if I am allowed to post this here, but as it is still a glass ID request...

I recently bought this small oil painting for a few Euros at the fleamarket; obviously not for the high artistic quality of the painting, but for the unusual subject -- 3 (likely) Bohemian Art Nouveau glass pieces.
The perfect decoration for a glass collector's home :)

Any of the experts able to match the items to a company / decor? (I would think Loetz or Kralik "Pampas" for the tall blue one)

Sorry, I am unable to provide a pic of the base ;D

Thanks,
Michael

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: glassobsessed on January 21, 2015, 06:32:24 PM

Perhaps Kralik Bacillus for the vase on the left, colours would fit anyway. ;D

John

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: flying free on January 21, 2015, 07:35:07 PM

The one on the right I think is Kralik as well - that opal colour base with the bright green spots all around the base and the vertical stripes - I can't remember what the decor is but it's kind of like a green version of Helios with stripes :)
A lovely painting Michael :) - great find.
m

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: rocco on January 22, 2015, 01:29:49 PM

Thank you both! :)
So most likely all 3 are Kralik then.

Michael

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: flying free on January 27, 2015, 09:16:42 PM

Michael I cannot find a definite Kralik id for the bowl on the right.
The decor is shown in Das Bohmische Glas Band IV page 225 as Anonyme Produktion in both white with orange spots at the bottom and the white and green spots with the maroon vertical lines as in your painting.
I'll keep looking. Perhaps it wasn't formally id'd that I saw, just someone pontificating that it might be Kralik.
m

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: misha on January 28, 2015, 07:49:44 PM

Whats the date on the painting?

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: rocco on January 29, 2015, 05:04:10 PM

Thank you very much m for doing more research!
As it is more or less a just-for-fun request, please don't put too much effort in it ;)

misha: the painting is illegibly signed, but not dated...

Michael

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: misha on January 29, 2015, 05:32:59 PM

Have you had it out of the frame? 
Might be hidden frame or canvas wrapped around the stretcher. 

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: flying free on February 19, 2015, 11:37:31 AM

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/33951621_loetz-decorated-vases
Two similar pieces but no source for the id of course.
m

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: waltl2 on February 19, 2015, 09:12:23 PM

Dear Rocco,
The two pieces on the left might be French Art Nouveau cameos? The casual rendering of their surface decoration might be a loose interpetation of a floral motif?

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: rocco on February 23, 2015, 04:29:45 PM

Thanks all for your help, very much appreciated!

@Misha: there is a paper glued to the back of the frame, and I am not keen on removing that; even if there is a date, it would probably not give a clue -- the painting could be contemporary to the glass pictured, or someone painted grandma's vases in the many decades later ;)
@m: looks like a similar colour and decor, well spotted. The lines on "my piece" seem to be more regular, though.
@waltl2: I think the Bohemia attribution is quite solid, but I will look into French Art Nouveau glass, too...

Michael

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: rocco on February 26, 2015, 08:39:41 AM

@m: here is another similar piece, attributed to Pallme König: >> Link (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Pallme-Konig-Habel-Glasfabrik-Elisabeth-Kosten-Gebackdose-Konfektdose-/171257524612) :)

Michael

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: flying free on February 26, 2015, 11:17:17 PM

I don't know if that decor has been id'd formally  - In the book it's unidentified.
I do wonder if there were two 'versions'; by different makers.  The vases I linked to do not look as nicely done as the biscuit jar thing you linked to, in terms of how they are executed, don't you think?
I'm just wondering if this is one of those where one version was Pallme Koenig and then.. there might be the Kralik version?  In the way that some of the Loetz designs seem to have similar Kralik versions.

m

Title: Re: Painted glass ;-)
Post by: rocco on March 01, 2015, 02:05:35 PM

Yes, the threads appear more regular on the painted piece, so maybe several of the mentioned makers produced similar patterns...
I am happy with the "Bohemian" Art Nouveau attribution :)

Michael