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Title: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: LesBeatiques on January 23, 2015, 04:09:46 AM

Hello all,

This piece is roughly 3-1/2" tall & 3-1/4" diameter. It features a peach color core with organized spiraling control bubbles and a flat polished base.

Could this be Whitefriars?

Many thanks,
Eric

Title: Re: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: Paul S. on January 23, 2015, 09:25:48 AM

this type of bubble formation, plus the flat base which appears to break into some of the bubbles, is very similar to the Czechoslovakian Jaffe Rose weights........   which I believe are still being made.       I have a green weight, but have an idea I've also seen this peach/amber from them, and substantial wide clear casing like this is typical of their pieces.                   
I don't think W/Fs ever did apples.
Could be completely wrong of course. :)

Title: Re: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: Greg. on January 23, 2015, 10:16:08 AM

I gather Whitefriars produced both apples and pears around 1980, although the above example doesn't look like WF's, quite possibly Czech as Paul suggests.

http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=10292

Title: Re: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: Paul S. on January 23, 2015, 12:39:48 PM

thanks for correcting me Greg :-[

Title: Re: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: Greg. on January 23, 2015, 02:32:24 PM

No worries Paul  :)

Title: Re: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: LesBeatiques on January 23, 2015, 04:59:19 PM

I suspect that its probably Czech as well but I thought that there might be fleeting possibility that it was WF.
Thank you,
Eric

Title: Re: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: johnphilip on January 23, 2015, 06:56:36 PM

Definitely not Whitefriars  . The Whitefriars Pears have a short crease just below the stalk .

Title: Re: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: flying free on January 24, 2015, 11:12:05 PM

I think it might be a Harrachov weight designed by Milan Metelak. Production number 15/3938
Source From Neuwelt to the Whole World page 412.
A pear was also made.
This is a link to a green one on the board. 
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,35060.msg189864.html#msg189864
In the book it shows a pale pink apple and pear.  The photograph appears to show that the apple has no clear casing but the pear does but that might just be the way the photo is taken.
m

Title: Re: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: jimbo1 on January 25, 2015, 04:57:53 PM

I have had a number of these with  the Jaffe Rose import label. So would go with a Czech attribution for this one.

I believe the Whitefriar's examples are all full lead crystal, the controlled bubbles spiral from the centre when viewed from the base, the Czech examples tend to have the bubbles and colour within a central core (if that makes sense) and as John mentions above the Whitefriar's weights have a groove to the top.

 

Title: Re: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: WhatHo! on January 25, 2015, 06:34:33 PM

Whitefriars didn't make apples in cased colours.

Title: Re: Whitefriars Apple?
Post by: LesBeatiques on February 12, 2015, 03:55:25 PM

Thank you all!