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Title: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on January 27, 2015, 03:28:09 PM
Hi guys,

I'm hoping that someone can ID this vase for me ~ it's a little over 5" tall and inscribed to the bottom with 'Jack in the Pulpit' and what looks like 'OR'. The flowers are etched into the glass and the green stems seem to be cased within the clear glass. We thought it was Orrefors when we bought it but would appreciate confirmation (or otherwise!) before listing it on eBay.

Many thanks in anticipation, as always, John. 8)
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 27, 2015, 03:31:25 PM
My unconfirmed thought is Caithness
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on January 27, 2015, 04:00:02 PM
Thanks for your thoughts Christine ~ have looked at a few Caithness vases and can see why you suggest it! Will keep digging...
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 27, 2015, 06:05:57 PM
My guts leapt straight to Caithness too. They did not pass go or collect £200.
Then I had a look at the book.  :)

On p. 96 of Mark Hill's book on Caithness, there are a couple of little vases the same shape as yours, with coloured streaks in the glass and sandblasted flowers. One is clear glass, the other neodynuim. The caption reads:-

"A Jack in Pulpit vase, no.CT365, and a pink vase, no.CT366, from the sand blasted and hot-worked floral range, designed by Denis Mann, c1983, 5.25in (13.5cm) high. Other designs in the range included Daisy, Bluebell, Daffodil and Snowdrop.

I imagine your piece is Bluebell?
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: Paul S. on January 27, 2015, 07:08:07 PM
Have looked at Mark Hill's book, and it seems as though his caption is implying there are five different floral designs in this range...........    jip, daisy, bluebell, daffodil and snowdrop - these names presumably referring to the corresponding sandblasted images.
The two pieces shown above the caption are jip and what may well be daisy - I don't get the feeling that this one has anything to do with bluebells Sue.

Assume the right hand vase which includes the butterfly is the neodymium example (pale grey violet) and the left hand vase with the purple streaks is another jip example, but what colour it's supposed to be I'm not sure - it looks to agree with the colour swatch (in the book) for amethyst  :)
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 27, 2015, 07:14:13 PM
well the blasting on the OP's vase doesn't look very bluebell-y to me, is "jack in the pulpit" an actual flower name?
I can't work out what's in the picture. I'm off to find a magnifying glass, a better pair of glasses and to use the cooker hood lights (the only LED's I have)
I had assumed from the caption that the generic name for these vases was jack-in-the-pulpit. It's not really very clear, is it?

ok. I can now see the blasting on the neodynium vase (the one describes as being pink, the wording of the caption *is* all wrong. The first vase shown is the "pink", not the second, but the caption implies that the first one is the JIP and the second is pink (which it isn't)

So; the OPs vase is Caithness, from the "Floral Range" by Denis Mann, and IS "Jack-in-the Pulpit".
whew.
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 27, 2015, 07:22:48 PM
The neodymium vase is the one on the left  in MH's book and features a Jack in the Pulpit (CT365) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arum_maculatum

I'd lend you two me specs but you wouldn't be able to see through them
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on January 27, 2015, 07:28:51 PM
Thanks for all your efforts and thoughts folks - much appreciated.
I don't have the book so I'm afraid I can't comment on the pictures there. I can tell you though that the flower on this vase is a Jack in the Pulpit (yes, it really is a plant!) - it looks a bit like the white lilies used at funerals.
Hope this helps. Cheers, John.
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 27, 2015, 07:32:46 PM
We got there in the end.  :)
(Now I can't see the computer screen, I haven't changed back from my reading glasses to my pc-focussing and vegetable-peeling distance glasses yet...besides, it's nearly time for my tv-distance glasses. If I can find them.  ::) )
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on January 27, 2015, 09:26:36 PM
Thanks again guys ~ your help is very much appreciated.
Keep smiling 8) John.
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: Wuff on January 28, 2015, 12:58:45 PM
On Leaflet Ref.24 of 1983 "Floral Range" is described as follows:
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The Caithness Floral range mirrors the diversity of nature. Stems and leaves are incorporated into the glass at the blowing stage using a technique which allows them to grow as they will. Our engravers then interpret the flowers freehand, each in his her own style, as suggested by the pattern of the leaves. The result is a range which has a natural freshness and in which each item is truly individual.
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 28, 2015, 02:49:48 PM
Thank-you for that, Wuff. A lovely image (far better than the one in the book) and a clear description.
Title: Re: ID for signed vase titled 'Jack in the Pulpit' ~ Orrefors?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on January 28, 2015, 02:50:46 PM
Yes, thanks for that Wolf ~ very interesting and helpful.
Cheers, John. 8)