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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Baked_Beans on March 12, 2015, 05:33:48 PM
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Just wondering if this might be Whitefriars (possibly ::) ). It's the polished pontil mark , slightly off-set, and the rounded-off base , which made me think , Whitefriars....(perhaps). I've seen so much Whitefriars glass, that the base looks very promising and it's in clear , flint, lead crystal (I think) . Plus it was found with some other Whitefriars glass, in a secondhand shop. The design reminds me , a little , of this Mdina mixer jug here ....
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,58527.0.html
There is very little age to the base, so it could well be modern. It's 6.5 inches tall, to the highest point, and holds just one 1/2 of a pint. If it wasn't for the base and the fact that it was with some other Whitefriars glass (also in mint condition), I wouldn't have posted this on the GMB :D Any thoughts would be very welcome. Cheers, Mike.
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I have something very similar, Mike, with a stirrer stick, but like yours it has no handle but does have a nicely polished pontil mark. Someone (I can't recall who) suggested it might be Krosno... that might be an avenue to explore.
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Thanks very much Anne,
It does look similar !
I think these handle-less jugs with ice-catcher spouts are more common than I thought (having done some digging) ! I will do some more digging.. , cheers, Mike.
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They are very well-made Mike, I must get round to trying it out for that martini one day! ;)
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Thanks Anne,
You could try making a Raffles....a popular cocktail from the colonial days .....
4 Measures of Martini
1 measure of gin
1 measure of Campari
ice
2 slices of orange
Stir over ice (not shaken ;) ) and squeeze in orange slices .....slurp ... :D
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Mmmmm that sounds rather nice Mike... I'll add it to my to-try list! :)
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Yes it is very nice, It should be 4 slices of orange (sorry , I didn't multiply it up properly ) and it was yummy !
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Anne , I think I could have found an ID for yours. Your example has straighter sides and a thicker base than mine and a less pronounced curve to the spout at the top.
Yours might well be a Dartington, Hollywood mixer dating from the 1980's . If you scroll down here you can see a boxed one........
http://frankthrower.blogspot.co.uk/
Cheers, hic.
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Mike you're a star, thank you, it is the same as mine! Mine was an unboxed unlabelled charity shop find but it's clearly the same as the FT260 Mixer and Stirrer on that page... thank you, I am one happy bunny now I know. :)
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Ah that's great , very pleased to have managed to ID something for once ! :D
The closest I have got to the general shape of mine is a small version of Whitefriars pattern 9439 without the handle , it's the flint jug shown here.............
http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=1710
I'm not saying mine is Whitefriars because it isn't in the catalogues and this general shape is quite common for a mixer jug it seems.
Still digging !
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I think I have discovered what it is....its a small version of this .....scroll down ,9439 with no handle and it was with a sea green 9392 from the same year.........
http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=119
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Looks like Whitefriars did do a smaller version (I think it says 1/2 pint) next to the larger one to the right .
My smaller one does hold just under 3/4 of a pint if filled right to the top .
Does anyone have a smaller one to confirm height and capacity please ? Cheers, Mike.......
http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=414
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Link to Whitefriars.com thread...just started :)
http://www.whitefriars.com/smf1/index.php/topic,5680.0.html
Ta, Mike
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Mike,
I've attached a photo of 3 martini jugs by different manufacturers for comparison.
From left to right;
Whitefriars - height 6", capacity 12fl oz, or 3/4 of a pint
Stevens & Williams (I presume) - height 5 & 3/4"
Dartington - height 8", pattern MT260
So yes, yours is Whitefriars (confirmed by label)
Cheers, Steve L
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Huge thanks Steve !!
I have quite a few questions to ask (about the spout/top area) and I need some time to digest !
Will be back !!
Cheers very much indeed ! ;) Mike
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Thanks very much for the I.D. on this , much appreciated !
I think the 1969 cat. describes it as a half-pint mixer (as far as I can tell from my screen ) , mine holds under 3/4 of a pint (but on average it is the same height as Steve's). Adding a few ice cubes to half-a-pint of liquid would bring the level towards the top :)
The pic. in the 1969 cat. looks exactly like Steve's example . the spout pointing upwards. Very similar in shape to Boffo's Mdina mixers .
Mine has a spout that is horizontal (almost, slightly upward pointing ) and is very similar in shape to a larger version (see links to WF's cats. above).
My conclusion is that my example predates the 1969 version .....I could be wrong though ;)
Thanks again Steve for your pic. and help with this ID. Ta, Mike :D
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This is all well and good, but without handles how do we get the lovely drinks out of the pitchers, into the glasses????
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LoL ;) ....you just grab and pour ....glass optional ;D
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Use a long straw! :)
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Carolyn,
I bought the Dartington jug first, not knowing about Martini jugs, and believing it to be a modernist / Scandi jug sans handle. The thick base gives it a lovely "heft" in the hand.
Your question is valid, but all 3 jugs sit well in the hand, and pour well.
Cheers, Steve L :)
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Ahhh, but I have very small hands. Loses a little something in the sophistication line when you're holding the jug with both hands. ;D
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These smaller half-pinters appear also in the 1966 & 1972 Whitefriars cats.. so quite a long production run , they must be fairly common .
Ideal size for you Carolyn, with your small mitts ;)