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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: eshearm on March 17, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
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Hi, at first glance this box looks french, but unsure of the AB(connected) mark. Anyone seen this before and know who it might be?
Many thanks
E
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I have a bottle somewhere with a similar mark, they might not at all be connected though.
http://www.glassbottlemarks.com/ab-mark-on-beer-bottles/
Regards Chris.
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Hi Chris, thank you I had seen that before but am sureit's not the same maker. We may never know but I thought it was worth asking, thank you for your thoughts
E
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in view of what looks to be an impressed (in relief) mark, then this is pressed as opposed to the alternative suggestion of cut.
Pressed hobnail pattern goes back a long way, and was quite common earlier in the C20 - Davidson had massive success with their '1885 suite' (that was the date of first manufacture I believe), and items from that set can still be found. This form of decoration was also very popular as a cut design, and presumably it was the cut version that the pressed factories were copying.
Would agree, I can't really see this coming from a bottle factory, but you never know. Does it look French? - yes, possibly - for whatever reason my opinion is that it's not British. Rather unfortunate that with all the brains on this forum, we still don't seem to know who AB was/is, but it's a nice little piece :)
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This is a mixture of pressed and cut glass, the glass is not the best quality but I have seen worse! It is a lovely piece and we may never solve the identity but thanks for your thoughts x
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how unusual to be both - which part is which? :)
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ab is not necessarily the maker - it could be the retailer.
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Ivo - do I understand that you're suggesting that the mould, used by the maker, might have carried the retailer's initials deliberately - in this instance at least ?? :) Not perhaps a common occurrence.
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Could this also read VB (connected) ?
Villeroy & Boch (http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/03252.html) Please scroll down for an image of VB mark. Several others under pressglas-pavillon 'Markentafel'.
This pattern was made by nearly all manufacturers of pressed glass ::)
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Certainly in France it was usual that glass was marked with the house that sold it. If, say, Baccarat made an exclusive for l'escalier de cristal it would not be marked baccarat. Think Liberty.
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thanks for the explanation :)
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not always easy to tell the difference between cut and pressed, although experience does help - but unlikely to be both on an item like this. It can help, usually, to look into the mitres - those deepish V cut grooves that so often adorn both sorts of glass ........... using a good light source can pick up the lines (within the V cuts) created in cut glass by the grinding wheel, as the polishing rarely removes them entirely. Of course, in pressed glass these will never be seen, plus the edges of pressed patterns are mostly not as sharp as cut glass.
I'd suggest this was made as some part of a dressing table accoutrement - but E didn't tell us the size, and assume there aren't any marks on the metalwork :)