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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: orangeglass on March 22, 2015, 12:12:13 PM
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New Monart bowl - shape IG size IV - 12" diameter
I was wondering if this is the same colour scheme as Mr Millar's new vase - or does yours have white in it Gary?
Lots of bubbles in clear glass with loads of gold aventurine, splashes of greens and orange - are these orange bits sort of broken up glass (giving the angular edges) rather than just coloured powdered glass marvered in?
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Nice bowl in a superb colour scheme.
Does your bowl have any brown among the clear glass.
What literature have read would indicate that the orange bits in your bowl are shards of glass. I have no idea how the are so thin.
Gary
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I don't think theres any brown in it - will have a look tomorrow in daylight but i think it's just gold aventurine.
Can't remember where I read the thing about blowing the glass then shattering it then gathering more and re-blowing it - was definitely something to do with Monart, but whether it applies to this or not I'm not sure, it's just that this orange seems to be in a few pieces I've seen and it always has angular edges and doesn't look to be applied in the same way as the other colours - can anyone shed any light on this?
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nice bowl, not same as mines, mines has white and yellow aswell ;)
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Isle of Wight Studio Glass used to use blown shards to create the Seascape and Landscape pieces.
A gather was suitably coloured (in this case, with canes of various colours laid out on the marver to create stripes when gathered) then blown into a large shape, cooled and broken to make irregularly shaped shards, which were then picked up from the marver themselves, onto another gather.
That is how it's done and would have been, I presume, at Monart. There's a white lampshade covered in coloured shards hidden away in the vaults of Perth Museum. :)
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Thanks Sue, I knew I hadn't imagined it!!!
Was it also used at Mdina - my little bottle/vase has a similar type of angular coloured bits.
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I am not absolutely positive about that surface-decorated Mdina, but to get the angular shapes, I would suspect so.
That colourway is only ever found on very small pieces - almost miniatures, but because it's also decorated with silver salts, I'm actually clueless as to how it was achieved. :-\
(my brain is determined to comment that this is a BIG bowl :-[ )
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Thanks for the explanation Sue.
Below is a photo of the lampshade from Perth museum.
Monart did use that technique in three (that I know of) different colour codes.
Gary
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Big -yes !
Here is a picture of my other bowl - same shape and size - next to a little one just for comparison ;)
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Maybe the orange worked particularly well for this technique!
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Maybe the orange worked particularly well for this technique!
Monart did use that technique in three (that I know of) different colour codes.
Gary
After some research I will have to amend my above statement.
The following Monart colour codes have this type of technique- 24 with orange and possibly blue, 143A orange, 261 orange, 261A orange and blue, 384 orange, 295A orange and blue, 395 orange, 396 orange and 455A orange. I have a bowl with orange and yellow (no colour code so far), the Perth museum lampshade orange (no colour code so far), ex I Turner collection Christies sale lot 100 KB bowl amber (no colour code so far).
This technique was used in Monart more than I originally thought, though still fairly uncommon.
Orange does appear to be the most used colour.
Gary
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Thanks Gary for taking the time to research :)
I have 3 pieces with "shards" in - this IG bowl, a 395, and also this BB bowl - not sure of the colour code though?
I have been looking at it more closely now - some obs:
The "shards" appear to be a translucent green colour, but there are other colours overlaid on top (looking from the outside of the bowl) and looking inside you can see the orange yellow colour - so the shards appear to be sandwiched between an inner base colour of typical orange & yellow, then shards, then multi-colours applied on top (then clear cased). I must admit it's fairly thick glass with a couple of fairly large annealing cracks and a slightly unusual pontil mark (almost like it's been on the rod twice)?
Should this topic be split off into a "Monart colour techniques" or just kept here? :)
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Hi,
if there is a mod reading this, could you possibly split this off (either separate or duplicate) into a new heading/topic
"Monart colour schemes" or suchlike :D
thanks!
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Roberta - I will happily split it out.
But could you please suggest
a) where to make the split (which Post #) and
b) what the new heading should be?