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Title: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: Gary on April 17, 2015, 03:11:52 PM
I bought theses two pieces recently at my local auction house, the first one is a Salvador Ysart ink bottle (sadly stopper stuck) and the second one is an early Monart stoneware blue vase with grey inner.
Gary
Title: Re: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: johnphilip on April 17, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
Wow love the bottle Gary , don't rush the stopper , it can be done with patience  or broken in haste , as I know , yes that's so nice .
Title: Re: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: Gary on April 18, 2015, 07:17:43 AM
Wow love the bottle Gary , don't rush the stopper , it can be done with patience  or broken in haste , as I know , yes that's so nice .

Thanks for your comments JP.
I would like to remove the stopper if possible without any damage, what procedure should I follow.
Any info on that would be appreciated.
Gary
Title: Re: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: millarart on April 18, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
il ask my mate he does it using a piece of string im sure
Title: Re: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: millarart on April 18, 2015, 01:27:39 PM
http://cleopatrasboudoir.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/opening-perfume-bottle-with-stuck.html
Title: Re: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: KevinH on April 18, 2015, 05:58:53 PM
Extra care is need for stuck Monart / Vasart bottle stoppers ... because of the well known problem of easy cracking of the glass when under stress. With inkwells, because of the solidity of the stopper and shank, a break is more likely to occur in the neck of the bottle.

I suggest trying a variety of normal releasing agents, like WD40 and equivalents, followed by GENTLY tapping the neck area with a wooden spoon handle.
Title: Re: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: Gary on April 18, 2015, 07:21:04 PM
Thanks Gary and Kevin for the info, I will try Kevin's method as I have WD40 and a wooden spoon. Is it best to twist the stopper or try pulling it upwards ?.
The majority of methods on the web site required either heat (friction or otherwise) or cold (in a fridge) which seemed a bit extreme to me.
Gary
Title: Re: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: millarart on April 18, 2015, 07:32:20 PM
the heat off using the string is not enough to crack the glass neck
Title: Re: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: Gary on April 18, 2015, 07:58:15 PM
the heat off using the string is not enough to crack the glass neck

Cheers Gary, I have a Monart perfume with cracks to neck, so the wooden spoon would not be a good idea (may cause further damage) so I will try the string method on perfume bottle.
Gary
Title: Re: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: millarart on April 18, 2015, 08:05:39 PM
 im not too sure it would work on cracked piece I think it would have to be crack free for the warmth to be able to spread evenly  but worth a try
Title: Re: My recent Ysart/Monart
Post by: Gary on April 19, 2015, 12:08:17 PM
Extra care is need for stuck Monart / Vasart bottle stoppers ... because of the well known problem of easy cracking of the glass when under stress. With inkwells, because of the solidity of the stopper and shank, a break is more likely to occur in the neck of the bottle.

I suggest trying a variety of normal releasing agents, like WD40 and equivalents, followed by GENTLY tapping the neck area with a wooden spoon handle.
Many thanks Kevin, after following your instructions I am the owner of a working ink bottle. After a couple of hours tapping the neck with a wooden the stopper came free.  :) :) :)

Gary