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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: BRADBURY7308 on April 27, 2015, 10:21:00 AM
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This is a preety bubbley vase which im hoping might be a piece of german art glass maybe?? 5.5" tall 4.5" wide at base 21/4" at the rim frosted base iridescent colour on the cased clear outer with profuse bubbling throughout most of the vase the bubbles seem to have metalic looking frits of dark colour or something very unusual, I originally thought it might be zwiesel but not sure now any ideas welcome. Quite a heavy piece of thick glass.
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These have been on the board before.
Most likely Romanian (though that attribution probably needs confirmation, see second link below).
But surely not German.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,49494.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,49494.0.html)
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,59219.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,59219.0.html)
Michael
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Thanks again michael :D
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You're welcome :)
I hope we find out more about these nice vases...
Michael
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These again - we still don't know anything more than; probably Romanian, maker unknown.
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Yeah, i've got one of these too. Bought it in 2009. Is it iridescent on the top?
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Heavy often means Poland, very heavy points to the East, as does iridescence. As for Romania, I cannot imagine any factory there making heavies.
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Just found another one of these mystery vases on the net, in blue: >> Link (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/dd/57/60/dd5760c0334d6ba2bffb31aa7f9a84f4.jpg)
I still haven't seen any real evidence that these are Romanian, but it doesn't seem totally unlikely to me.
I have definitely seen the following heavy vintage pieces with "Made in Romania" stickers:
>> these iridescent hotworked vases (http://wilhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verkaufen/antiquitaeten-sammlungen-kunst/murano-vase-alt-blau-irisierend-131074672/) come in dark blue or green, and are not uncommon here. Same roughly ground base.
>> pieces with this decor (http://serendipityantiques.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/green-murano.jpg) (vases, bowls, swans)
Michael
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Found a new shape....
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTU5M1gxNDU2/z/-eYAAOSw3ydV5Vz7/$_57.JPG (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTU5M1gxNDU2/z/-eYAAOSw3ydV5Vz7/$_57.JPG)
Attributed to Heinrich Loffelhardt, Zwiesel. I went looking for his style of bubble glass but couldn't find anything similar. :-\
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Zwiesel made a very similar decor, so it depends on the base finish, which is always
excellent. I have a Zwiesel somewhere - hang on, can´t take more than a few weeks
to find it.... ;D
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Forgot - and the Zwiesel ones have a clear surface without any hints of iridescence.
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Thanks for the link Tigerchips :)
That is a shape I haven't seen before either...
I have a few of the "Florida" pieces by Löffelhardt, totally different base finish (shiny base with circular polished pontil mark), and as Dirk says no iridescence.
But the bubbles and inclusions are very similar, I do wonder if by accident or not...
Michael
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Zwiesel. Nice Bottom. :P
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I have one in the shape and colours of the pair in the ebay link - it has a flat, roughly ground base.
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http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bleikristall-Vase-aus-Rumanien-1960-70er-Jahre-80734-/271987340013?hash=item3f53b572ed
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;D
Well found.
That would seem to support the Rumanian rumour. ;)
However, it is hard to tell if the rainbow irridesence is present or not; it doesn't have any odd surface features or pulls into odd shapes, (another common feature of these vases). And there is no image of the base to see if it is roughly ground.
It has the label, but I'm not absolutely sure it is exactly the right sort of glass. :-\
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Nice find, the dark green inclusions (or whatever you call them) inbetween the bubbles look the same. So Romania spelt with a 'u' as well, may aid me in my search.
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:)
I agree, it does look right - I just want more confirmation to be sure.
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I'll ask Jan for a photo of the base for us ;)
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lovely! Thank-you Pamela. :-*
And does it have the rainbow irridesence on the surface too, pretty please?
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Hi,
Sue - not sure if you mean there's not a picture of the base of the ebay one - there is if you scroll down - it looks rough - almost frosted :)
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Roberta, Jan has added the photo of the base right after I had asked him ;D
Sue, yes, also this Romanian vase shows a slight iridescence.
Jan bought this vase here in Northern Germany about 25 years ago.
:-*
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Perfect for this (lovely) genre of glass.
The proper base, the proper iridesence, the proper bubbles, the proper colour, the proper age - and a LABEL.
Yippeee!
Thank-you so much Pamela, and your friend Jan.
Confirmed Rumanian. Maker still unknown, but definitely Rumanian. ;D 8) ;D
I'm a very happy bunny.
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Confusion over!! Thanks for clarifying Pamela.
I must admit I have been tempted by these pieces a couple of times - have seen them wrongly attributed but didn't know so at the time - was just suspicious as no-one bid on them! Anything with lovely bubbles....... ;D
I'm sure next time I see one I'll have completely forgotten what they are!
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Pamela, could you please ask Jan if copies of some of his eBay images could be used in the Board. That way we will retain the evidence of attribution.
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Kevin, I guess you know how to draw these images from that auction (I don't ??? ) - otherwise I'd ask for copies.
Permission for the re-use of these images on the GMB granted by Jan Kilian of glaskilian.de
:)
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Thank you so much Dirk, Pamela, Jan for finally solving this ID challenge :)
Glad I didn't make a complete fool of myself when I told the guy in the other thread that the vases he had bought as Barovier 1940s were very likely of Romanian origin...
Michael
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Resized and optimised copies of eBay images are added here for confirmation of the Rumanian attribution.
Permission for the re-use of these images on the GMB granted by Jan Kilian of glaskilian.de
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I'm a very, very happy bunny. My sincere thanks again to Pamela, Dirk and Jan Kilian.
This mystery has been bothering me for years and years.
They are lovely bits of glass and need to be properly recognised. :)