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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: AClose on May 15, 2015, 04:37:41 PM
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I purchased these two Caithness glasses, but most info I find is on their paperweights. From what I can tell these are in the Flamenco pattern, but I would love help confirming this and also when they would have been made. Thank you!
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Whilst I am fairly complete on paperweights, I only have a few artglass catalogues.
Flamenco doesn't show up in 1988 nor 1989.
In 1998 all sorts of things are advertised in the Flamenco range, colourways Dawn, Dusk and Aquamarine.
In 2002 only Dusk and Dawn are mentioned
In 2003 Rainbow is added, still mentioned are Dusk and Dawn.
Whilst your glasses would fit the design as Dawn - neither catalogue mentions glasses like yours.
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I think these are Panache and the black and white colourway was known as Midnight. Designed in around 1987 by Colin Terris and Alastair MacIntosh, initially made in King's Lynn and later at Caithness.
Info from Mark Hill's book on Caithness Glass, page 62.
These three were definitely made in King's Lynn (it said so on the labels...).
John
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This black and white striped design is discussed in the Caithness book by Mark Hill, p.62.
Shown are two candlesticks and a cocktail glass.
They were designed by Colin Terris and Alastair MacIntosh in '87.
The caption under the image reads;
"This range of tableware with coloured stripes on unribbed colourless bodies was initially made at King's Lynn. It included bowls (inc. no.4071), candleholders, two carafes and a jug. A range of conical drinking glasses and a decanter was called Charisma, and a similar, very popular, set with rounded forms was called Panache.
Initial colours were Midnight (black and white) Dawn (pink and ruby) and Twilight (blue and pink). Sunrise and other colours werre added later, and the most popular colourway was Dawn. Some forms were new, and some were from existing moulds at King's Lynn."
I have a set of tall stemmed glasses with rounded bowls and a carafe in this Midnight pattern. I'll have to take a pic to post and the light is lousy. It will have to wait a little or I won't be able to produce anything recognisable.
The glasses are not quite the same as yours, I don't think.
Does Flamenco not refer to a ribbed shape of vessel?
I was cross-posting with John - my Midnight glasses are the same shape as his. But you still need to see the cafare-y thing.
Something is going very wonky here.
I posted, then the thread came up without my post, but with one from John. I went back a page or so and found my post again - I was modifying it.
Now I've finally posted it, John's post has vanished...
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Thank you everyone! That's weird about the disappearing posts, but thankfully I saw John's before it vanished. The glasses do look a little different, don't they? John's seem to narrow towards the top, mine are almost coupe- like. But Panache makes sense- I'm just learning about Caithness now, so it's all new to me!
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John's and my glasses have a more "bulgy" bottom part to the bowl, a narrower rin and the stems are longer.
Carafe piccie tomorrow, if the sun gets through the clouds a wee bit.
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A rather delayed "tomorrow", sorry.
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Thanks so much Sue! It seems there is a slight difference to the shape of the bowl. Hmmm...
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The shape of the bowl of the glass illustrated in the book is different yet again - it's a conical "martini" shape.
Not a problem - just differently shaped glasses for differing purposes. :)
Yours are more akin to champagne coups, John's and mine, hock glasses.
Although the carafe doesn't look like it's for anything other than water. It's very plain.