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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Cathy B on June 19, 2006, 02:57:06 PM
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Here's an odd little figure of a dancer, except it's really not very good. She's an odd shape for a dancer, she's not doing the splits properly and if her head wasn't looking up like that then she'd have a double chin. The registration number is BRN95907 B/75. I guess that's a British registration number from 1975, perhaps?
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2338
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2337
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2336
Can anyone tell me anything about who made her - or point me in the direction of a site where I can research the BRN number?
Thanks very much!
Cathy
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Splitting the difference as my lady friend would say. :lol:
I've never seen a registration number like that. I see registration numbers mostly on pottery so perhaps glass is different.
BTW, The BRN number on GlassGallery is different to this one. :?
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Hiya Tigger!
The correct number is BRN35907 B/75. I'm thinking, given the quality, it might be something along the lines of Avon. (didn't someone flash like Cambridge have the Avon contract for a while?)
Cheers
Cathy
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hi Cathy,
i was just about to begin a new thread, but - learning curve! - used the search option first.
today i found another figure with a similar registration number: BRN3509B/75
it has a bit more art déco look than yours; made of green glass, all satinised (inside base)
~ 11cm tall
hope it´s ok to add it to this thread?
did you get any additional information about the reg. number in the meantime?
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Hi Dirk,
No I never found out anything more about her. Interestingly, a figure very like yours was being sold by the same person from whom I bought mine.
Max has mentioned figures which turned out to be some sort of resin. Having not handled mine in a while, I was absolutely certain mine was glass but I'm keeping an open mind.
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Cathy et al — The multitude (or should it be plethora?) of patents and registrations on an early '30s Lillicrap's Hone includes:-
- FRANCE BREVET NO. 708000
Could the BRN on your dancer be an abbreviation for Brevet No.?
... and what is a French Brevet No.? Is it the exact equivalent of a British registration number, or are there differences?
... and I'm always wary of nice tidy numbers like 708000, which are likely to be category, filing, or temporary numbers.
Bernard C. 8)
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http://www.inpi.fr/fr/brevets.html
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Marcus — Grateful thanks for the website reference. I've been through it, and it looks to me similar to a British design registration number, but I'm afraid my holiday French is not up to the fine detail, so I hope some kind person happens by who can check this. In particular, I could not find any reference either to how a Brevet number should be shown on what it protects, or to any archive showing what numbers had been used in the past.
Bernard C. 8)
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Many thanks Bernard and Marcus. I can't help with the French at all either. Perhaps Dirk can help?
I was rather rude to my poor ballerina. These days, dancers are so skinny that I couldn't imagine one that shape. That said, there's something very odd about her posture and proportions.
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thanks to all!
unfortunately my french is about as good as my suahili, which means it´s all greek to me either...
i´ve tried the search option with numbers - to no avail. also made an attempt with ´BRN´ on
ebay.fr - same result.
perhaps BRN isn´t a registration number of a country, but e.g. an abbreviation of a brand name? (just
thinking loudly)
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Hi,
Don't have the time to translate the whole site, nor am I aware of a French language site that carries early BRNs, but two observations.
Both figures are related by carrying a BRN, but not necessarily by country of manufacture.
Dirk's figure is known to me, in two variants, one an ashtray, and Dirk's form.
The ashtray form I have seen did not carry a BRN.
I have an idea that Dirk's item originated in central Europe, possibly Czechoslovakia, due to the quality, and possibly BRN'ed for the Francophone market.
Regards,
Marcus
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'Brevet' just means 'patent'
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Saw this today in a shop for a few pence and decided too chance my arm i dont really know why but it "reminded" me of the deco centrepieces you get in some bowls made by the like of walther and bagley etc...??? The thing is it hasnt that much quality. Anyhow i finaly have plucked up the courage too list it here dont laugh me off i think it was one of those impulse buys again lol. It measures 7" long and 6" tall is a nice sort of colour not much detail with a hollow foot up inside the main body there is a raised stamp inside BREVN then a set of about 6 numbers. Im thinking now it might just be a piece of repro that some shops do now but just thought id try and check it out i had no luck with google whatsoever sorry in advance if im a time waister!! :spls:
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Hi,
comes in green, too (scroll down):
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6003.0.html
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OHH that is great thanks dirk :clap:
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Two observations (due to the time they took a moment to sink in):
- your lady has different measures to mine, so they come in several sizes.
- Does the lettering inside the foot really start with ´BREV N´? This would underline Bernhard´s
theory, that `BRN´ stands for Brevet No.. Can you give us the exact number, please?
Perhaps this thread should be merged with the other? Dear Mods?
Mod: done as suggested, thanks Dirk :)
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Just been having a look through Marcus's link on the other thread only a quick scan, the brevet is just a patent number and stops people/companies exploiting your invention for a maximum of 20 years, I think as I only scanned an id can be also obtained for the same purpose and protects for a max of 6 years. Will look more later. It did mention pharmaceuticals also so would that link in with the Avon thought?
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It would have been patents for any invention, not just pharmaceuticals. If these are brevet numbers, it should be possible to work out who took out those patent numbers specifically.
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As a fluent french speaker,this ia a wild goose chase! Numero de brevet is never abbreviated in French to BRN in my knowledge.Numero always comes first, not the British parlance of "brevet registration Number" (BRN).
I reckon it is EE in origin.
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:hiclp: Thank you!
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Thanks! Does anyone have further ideas; perhaps there´s another language with
a similar word to ´brevet´? :huh:
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Or maybe it's just some internal factory or catalogue number.
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Italian perhaps? Babylon English Italian Dictionary (http://www.babylon.com/definition/patent/Italian)
patent = s. brevetto; invenzione brevettata;