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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: bat20 on June 07, 2015, 10:35:16 AM
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Hi all,found this lovely piece this morning and it's always a surprise when you know what something is and the seller only asks 50p!,I have seen this glass before,books online etc,but never live and was quite surprised to see it has a slight green tinge,on getting home I torched it and yes it glows,does all queens ware glow,many thanks.
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Yes all Queen's Ivory glows; the white does not glow. That was a super bargain
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Thanks Christine,got to admit to being well chuffed with it that's the sort of thing that lightens your step after a few hours trudging about finding naff all!,just a quick tip,if you see a very new Range Rover turn up at a boot fair and start stalling up,head towards it like your life depended on it ;)
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;) I think Christine will be making a bee-line for any expensive car that appears at a boot and starts setting up from now on... if she doesn't already. ;D
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congratulations bat - nice piece, and not one that I've seen in the flesh. ..................... think we'll all start to follow you around.
You don't mention the presence, or otherwise, of a trademark or Rd. No. - and although I'm not too well up on these QPIW things - I did think they were all marked.
This design appears in Cottle - p. 101, although he makes no comment on whether it was made in QPIW only or white vitro-porcelain only, or both.
Having checked the National Archives, and comparing this with Cottle and the op's pix, the Rd. No. looks to be 328744 dated 4th November 1878 - and was one of 12 Sowerby designs Registered on the same date............ the full range of Registrations for that day was 328740 - 51.
Sowerby's own factory pattern No. is 1350.1/2 - and according to Cottle this appears in Sowerby Pattern Book IX p. 7 - I've not checked the Thistlewood CD's yet - maybe there were two sizes - but just guessing.
I'll post a watermarked pic of the Archives image shortly.
P.S. The 'white' that Christine refers to - that doesn't glow - is the ordinary white Vitro-porcelain.
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The second image shows the reg. mark, Paul. :-*
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sorry, I'll have to cut out the strong beer of a Sunday lunchtime - thought it was a blank pic. :-[ In my defence, and as a reminder, it's worth including the Rd. No. as part of the subject heading, or text, just for future reference and to help in searches.
here then is the National Archive picture - and as usual, the design is for the plain outline shape, rather than including any decoration.
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Thanks very much Paul,it's 5cm ht by the way,i don't think you'd want to follow me around to many boot fairs as Lady Luck normally gives me a good kicking,this time I received a pat on the head and hopefully one day we'll get even more intimate. :D
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the good pickings at these places have decreased enormously in the past couple of years - time was I could always come back with a bag of bits and pieces on a Sunday morning, but now it's hardly worth getting out of bed at five thirty - especially if it's dark and cold.
this one should please Fred.
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Nice pictures, the last 20 odd rd registered bits I have found have been in here following a Google search and Gmb search, it really is useful to have the title corrected and correct rd number out in the main heading it is a great reference point for anyone around the world, lovely find and I agree with Paul with the amount of dealers at car boots it's hardly worth getting out of bed, the last car boot I went to in Exeter I found a Georgian ale glass and a couple of signed studio pieces so it's not a total loss, it fuels the addiction when you find a gem like this for next to nothing.
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Thank you for showing the design representation, Paul.
Page 7 of pattern book IX (1882) shows 2 sizes of a similar design – 1350 being larger than 1350½. The Kew image could relate to either pattern number (Sowerby usually used a fraction in their pattern numbers to designate a size or minor shape variation).
1350 is, I think, probably a sugar bowl, with 1350½ a posy vase.
The 1350 bowl also occurs with the sides pinched in so that the handles poke up over the top rim and the bowl becomes a basket.
I’ve seen the pattern in QPIW, white vitro-porcelain, purple malachite, clear, white opalescent and translucent grey-green glasses.
There was also a creamer to match the pattern 1350 sugar bowl.
Fred.
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Thank you Fred,you can't help being charmed by such pieces.
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Exeter car boot. a Georgian ale, a signed Sanders perfume bottle, Norman Stuart Clarke piece signed nsc 87 and a piece of Cowdy glass.
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great finds Chris - well done.