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Title: Waterford?
Post by: johnny on June 25, 2015, 06:27:06 PM

I have been told that these are Waterford Crystal. I have a set of 6 but none of them have any marks on them.
Can anyone help please?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/132979938@N02/19147832192/in/dateposted-public/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/132979938@N02/19153581705/in/dateposted-public/

Title: Re: Waterford?
Post by: Paul S. on June 25, 2015, 07:40:26 PM

that wheel engraved stylized fern leaf was very much a Stuart motif, for very many years, and was called Woodchester  -  regret to say that I'm unaware if it was also used by Waterford, who are known for cutting more than engraving.           Locating Waterford catalogues may well prove difficult, sorry to say, but fingers crossed someone may recognize your pattern.
Was your source able to provide an provenance for their attribution - or was it guesswork? :)

Welcome to the GMB by the way johnny.

Title: Re: Waterford?
Post by: johnny on June 25, 2015, 08:01:49 PM

Thank you very much for your reply (and welcome).
It was pure guesswork on her part but she had them for years and has always thought them to be Waterford.
They are cut glass, not engraved. I will take some more pictures in daylight and that may help in identification.
Thanks again.
Johnny.

Title: Re: Waterford?
Post by: Paul S. on June 25, 2015, 08:35:04 PM

Waterford cut glass has had an illustrious history and they have created some wonderful cut glass items, and I suspect that often it is their name that might first come to mind when thinking of an origin for such pieces.              My opinion is that these are quite likely from Stuart, and certainly much of their glass was unmarked - especially over the past quarter of a century.

regarding the decoration  -  we tend to use the description cutting when there are deep incisions (mitres) in the glass - these are polished to remove obvious signs of the grinding wheel, so that the entire decoration appears transparent.
Wheel engraving is far less deep, and created with grit and copper wheels, and the opaque textured finish is left like yours as part of the decorative design.               However, both forms of decoration do indeed cut into the glass. :)

Title: Re: Waterford?
Post by: johnny on June 25, 2015, 10:02:58 PM

Thank you very much for the clarification. You have certainly enlightened me.
 :)

Title: Re: Waterford?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 26, 2015, 01:52:51 PM

I would be more inclined to think that they were perhaps Czech rather than English. Are they lead crystal or just soda glass, i.e., do they ring when you flick them?

Title: Re: Waterford?
Post by: johnny on June 26, 2015, 04:36:51 PM

They are definitely lead crystal, you can't mistake that ring.