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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: hmbab on July 18, 2015, 04:08:21 PM
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I recently found this vase at a local flea market. I liked the look, a little strange, plus it was signed. The seller didn't have a clue who signed it, or where it was from. I'm on the west coast, in California. I've been collecting aid for about a year, learning as i go. I've never seen anything signed on the top. Or even really in a visible spot, unless it's along the side, on bottom. This one is signed on top of the footed base. As well, the signature looks very artistic. It doesn't look like it was done by someone who hasn't signed glass. It's almost in the Chihuly style, but it's not his. Any ideas or ID's would be amazing. ..
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Bernard Aconito, Biot?
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I found very little on that artist. A video on YouTube showed some work that looked similar, but not the same. Also I cannot find any signatures to compare to. It does look like Biot, but hard to say.
Do you think the signature on my piece says "Aconito"?
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Snap! I was about to post an inquiry about a piece with the same signature, as shown in the images below. It is 22cm (8.5") high. We found it in a 'collectables' store at Mt Tamborine in Queensland, Australia, although I doubt it has an Australian origin.
This item is heavy walled, with what looks like embedded tiles (maybe best called tesserae, given there are not enough of them to be mille anything?). The base is unusual, with a large untreated pontil scar inside a formed base, which has been ground flat.
Our best guess is the signature has two parts. One part looks like a signature proper with initials CH, where an extended lower part of the C also forms the crossbar of the H. (Somewhat in the manner of Colin Heaney, for those who know Australian glass, although I don't intend to suggest a connection there.) The signature proper is superimposed on a word that looks like "Corio", but I must caution this is all guesswork.
Trevor
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Wow, truly interesting now!
That signature looks right to me. Did you look at the work related to biot? The bubbled glass seems consistent, but mine does not hold that mark.
The heavy walled nature that you speak of exists in my piece too. Very solid, although mine sits slightly tilted. I Call it character. I was immediately taken by the colors, then the blatant signature screamed at me.
I agree with your breakdown of the signature. The bold CH, C crossing the H. Then the seemingly obviously "orio" or perhaps "oris" I thought, but your clears that up. Then I point out the accent across the signature, yours has it to, but it is a little less "drawn". Notice the similarity of it to the dotting of the I in mine. C. Horio?
May I ask what you paid for yours? I paid $18 for mine. Now with the international connection, I'm thinking it might be valuable. ...? Here's to hoping!
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(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/hmbab2000/IMG_20150718_201744_zpsw46y0cnk.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/hmbab2000/media/IMG_20150718_201744_zpsw46y0cnk.jpg.html)
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The base connects a bit different on mine. More of a pedestal mounting. ..
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(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/hmbab2000/IMG_20150718_203039_zpsz3x9omxh.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/hmbab2000/media/IMG_20150718_203039_zpsz3x9omxh.jpg.html)
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Just found this website. .. interesting.
http://kidslovegreece.com/en/activity/glass-blowing-factory-in-kokkino-horio/
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Did you look at the work related to biot?
Yes, but nothing resonated particularly.
With your photos, it is much better to upload them to the board than to insert Photobucket links. For one thing, the images are usually lost after a short time, so the thread becomes useless as a reference for others. (I note the links in one of your earlier posts from only a few weeks ago are dead already.) Also, the massive embedded photos are an obstacle for those who only need thumbnails for reference.
There is good advice on the board about resizing and uploading photos, although I see you've done that before.
Just found this website. .. interesting.
http://kidslovegreece.com/en/activity/glass-blowing-factory-in-kokkino-horio/
No, but we had found the page below, which looks like it is closely related. It uses the spelling "Chorio" rather than "Horio".
http://www.kreta-umweltforum.de/Merkblaetter_en/314-09E.pdf
Trevor
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I just read that page. I've also sent an email with photos. Hopefully there's a response.
I'm betting they come from that factory in Chorio.
Yes, the pictures are always tricky depending on the forum. My old pictures are gone because I deleted them in photo bucket, not knowing the consequences. Are the current ones too large? They look good on my phone and tablet, yours need to be clicked on to enlarge. Maybe it's just the viewer?
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Hi. The Child Bride has been betting on that Greek factory as the source. I may come to regret that I did not listen.
It is a desirable feature that the thumbnail needs to be clicked to open up the full-size photo, because that way the screen is not crowded with irrelevant detail for folk who are sorting through looking for something in particular. The Board is as much a reference site as it is a quick solution for those seeking to identify their glass.
Trevor
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I finally got an answer from Greece...It took a phone call then finally a confirmed email.
Not from Greece..
Here is th response:
"We do not sign the glass we produce because if we would,we would like to do it in a proper way and not like this,with a paint that can easily beign removed,but it is really difficult.Instead we use a sticker just for the customers which writes"Tzompanakis Blown Glass".I am very sad to tell you that these vases are not made in our factory.I would recognize it in the first sight."
The search continues...
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Good information, even if we don't have a result.
Is yours really signed "with a paint that can easily be removed"? On mine the signature is engraved, and it looks engraved on yours too.
The writer of your reply seems rather sniffy about the quality of their products. They have a website
http://www.blownglass.gr/home.html
where the only items I can see clearly are rather simple homewares, although the page called "Our creations" is blank.There seems more emphasis on recycling than I would have thought best for high art. Piles of green and brown bottles waiting to be recycled, according to the page you found. Then there is the reclaimed metals division...
Let's home someone else can recognise our items.
Trevor
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No mine is etched, like yours. I think it's funny they choose a sticker. It's easiest to remove... I exchanged a few emails, one explaining the etched signature. I really thought it was theirs, look at the pictures here..
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g1699518-d2510819-Reviews-Art_of_Living_Glass_Factory-Chania_Prefecture_Crete.html
Yes the hunt continues... I'm definitely seeing a C Horio.
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There is a new post on the GMB (link below) showing a similar item with this signature. It is identified as makers Horia and Carmen Puscariu of Romania. That looks right for both the OP's item and the one I posted in Reply #3 above.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,64502.0.html
Trevor
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Hope that makes up for my mishap earlier on.
Just fwiw, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I always believed that Biot was a village where you have a manufacturer working under the label 'Biot' and several, individual artists who have their workshops in the same village, working under their own names. For instance Aconito, is often referred to Biot, but in his case it refers to the village and not the glass manufacturer.
It's the same idea as with Vallauris ceramics, lots and lots of independent artists, based in Vallauris