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Title: Candleobra, Bobeches Prisms - Pattern ID HELP. ID = Libochovice # 1388
Post by: jclearstl on July 27, 2015, 06:31:34 AM
Aprox 11" inch arm spread
5 1/2 inch tall
APROX 2" PRISMS
Title: Re: Pair of Double Candleobra With Bobches Prisims Unknown Pattern Need ID HELP
Post by: Paul S. on July 27, 2015, 07:15:38 AM
this appears to have a lot of similarity with Libochovice pattern 1388 - page 49 - on the Sklo Union CD catalogue "Glassexport Before 1958"  -  except that the catalogue example doesn't show the drops -  so perhaps unrelated.              The catalogue shows a dimension of 130 mm, which assume refers to the height.

The background to your pix is too busy, and it would have helped I think if this was simply a plain dark colour  -  helps enormously with clear glass.

Perhaps someone else might look at the catalogue and see if this suggestion is of any use.              Very nice pieces by the way. :)
Title: Re: Pair of Double Candleobra With Bobches Prisims Unknown Pattern Need ID HELP
Post by: Paul S. on July 27, 2015, 06:05:28 PM
had another look and feel confident that your item does match the Czech Libochovice design I've mentioned.         Regret can't tell you any more though  -  how much earlier than 1958 I've no idea
The design feature on the outer/under side of the arms - sort of 'cartridge belt' adornment - is seen commonly on many Libochovice sticks and candelabra - almost a bit of a left over from the deco period perhaps.               The book also shows a copy of page 49 - and again without drops - in fact none of these items shows drops/prisms in the catalogue  -  although suspect you won't have a copy of Marcus Newhall's book.

Anyway, Czech pressed glass from Libochovice from somewhere around the early to mid 1950's.
Title: Re: Pair of Double Candleobra With Bobches Prisims Unknown Pattern Need ID HELP
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 27, 2015, 06:33:00 PM
Bobeches with lustres seem a very US thing, so maybe added by the retailer or the previous owner.
Title: Re: Pair of Double Candleobra With Bobches Prisims Unknown Pattern Need ID HELP
Post by: pamela on July 27, 2015, 07:20:51 PM
Definitely Libochovice # 1388

Found a small cut of Libochovice pattern book ca 1930-1939 depicting their single candlestick holders with bobèches and prisms in  Pressglas-Korrespondenz 2012-2  (http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2012-2w-vorgic-libochovice-leuchter-1937.pdf)

 :)