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Title: Monart RA ?
Post by: Della on June 24, 2006, 03:08:18 PM

Hi all,

My latest purchase! And I think it is Monart RA, but never, ever, having handled Monart, I would like a little reassurance

To my eye, it matches the one on Frank's site.
It is 22.5 cm in height. (Sorry no " tape measure here.  :oops: )

(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10026/thumb_MonartRA.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2394)(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10026/thumb_Monartpontil.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2393)
 :shock: Click to enlarge :shock:

I got it for a steal, so I am hoping that it was my lucky day.  :lol:  :lol:

Thanks in advance. :lol:

Title: Monart RA ?
Post by: Frank on June 24, 2006, 03:44:47 PM

It looks like it was your lucky day. :D

Indeed shape RA in the original shape and probably early, say c1930. How close is the colour in the image to the piece.

Generally would sell in the 250-500 Euros range.

Title: Monart RA ?
Post by: Della on June 24, 2006, 03:54:16 PM

Hi Frank,

Thank you.  :D  The colour is pretty close, but with any kind of lighting, there is a very slight difference, ie the orange on the photo looks slightly more flourescent than the piece itself.

If it is worth that much  :shock:  :shock:  then I am a lucky girl today and a happy one.   :wink:  :wink:

P.S. It is perfect!

Title: Monart RA ?
Post by: Frank on June 24, 2006, 04:17:45 PM

Perfect maybe, this shape is particularly prone to annealing cracks. You need to study the surface inside and out at every angle possible with a point light source. They can be as small as 1mm and show up by reflection only. They cannot be felt and only go through one casing layer.

Title: Monart RA ?
Post by: Della on June 24, 2006, 06:40:10 PM

Okay, see my bubble burst.  :wink:

(http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/mad/mad0233.gif)

I really don't know what I am looking for, Frank. I am embarrassed to say that I have never seen an annealing crack.  :oops:  :oops:

Title: Monart RA ?
Post by: Frank on June 24, 2006, 07:31:33 PM

They are tough the first time, but they are found on a huge proportion. Impact on value is low unless very noticeable. I once had a piece completely covered in them and it sold because of them!

Didn't intend to deflate your bubble but it is good to be aware of these things. They are rarely found on other types of glass so no need to be embarrased When you come to A'dam I can show you examples. (I think)

What you are looking for is a minute line that reflects light, in particular with RA they appear on flat surfaces and in the curve at the top of the base. Internal ones are much harder to locate and again on the flat surfaces.

Title: Monart RA ?
Post by: Della on June 24, 2006, 07:46:41 PM

I was just jesting, Frank, with the bubble I mean.  :)

Thank you so much for the information.  :D I look forward to more enlightenment in August.  :lol:

I didn't realise how lovely this glass is, the photographs just don't do it justice either. It is really heavy too, which also surprised me.

I must say, thanks to the ysartglass.com site, I was confident as to what it was when I saw it, but wanted to get my hands on it first.  :P  :P Then of course, there is always the nagging doubt which has to be satisfied.
 :roll:

Title: Monart RA ?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 24, 2006, 07:59:13 PM

Here's an example of a large annealing crack http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4922.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4922.0.html)

Title: Monart RA ?
Post by: Frank on June 24, 2006, 08:14:44 PM

That is misleading because that is very large and caused by co-efficient problems. In the case of Monart it was a lousy annealing oven which the Ysart's resolved at Vasart. But yes, that is what the can look like in a large mass.