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Title: c scroll with truncated 'C' scrolls
Post by: donaldf on August 13, 2015, 05:01:36 PM
Hi All. This arrived today, A bit scratched so taking photos was very difficult as the autofocus kept honing in on the scratched surface rather than the canes within. There are a few weights of this style kicking about on the internet (images), and although this one was listed as a clichy, there are others which are called bohemian or remain unidentified.... is this Clichy? The four red and green roses don't look to be from the Clichy stable, while the central one does.? Don
Title: Re: c scroll with truncated 'C' scrolls
Post by: alpha on August 13, 2015, 08:27:17 PM
My vote is St. Mande

Sometimes if you put the paperweight in a glass bowl and just cover it with tepid water (not too hot and not too cold so as to shock the glass), you can get a very good photo as the water takes away the effect of the scratches.
Title: Re: c scroll with truncated 'C' scrolls
Post by: tropdevin on August 13, 2015, 09:07:01 PM
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Hi.  I have seen a few of these, and I do not think they are Clichy - I think St M may well be a possibility, but the canes never seem quite right to me. Peter von Brackel thought they might be 'Unknown French' and ruled out Bohemian.  So when you find out Don, please let us all know! :-)

Alan
Title: Re: c scroll with truncated 'C' scrolls
Post by: donaldf on August 13, 2015, 09:20:55 PM
Thanks Alpha and Alan. So non the wiser really. I was hoping for a definative answer. But a hundred and sixty years has muddied the waters..will we ever know?
Title: Re: c scroll with truncated 'C' scrolls
Post by: Tony G on August 16, 2015, 08:03:36 PM
Hi,   usually Alan has the best info. and he is probably nearest the mark here.

I looked at this closely on eBay and opted myself for Bohemian after examining both the outer and central roses. George Kulles illustrates both those rose types in his book "Identifying Antique Paperweights - Millefiori" on page 23 in Figures 58 (white - the central one) and 59 (cabbage - the outer ones).

The white rose has the same 6 tubes around a centre tube core.

Regards,