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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: vintageartglass on August 15, 2015, 08:53:43 PM
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Hello,
I recently bought a small oddment of a 20th century glass collection as I wanted one of the paperweights among it to add to my collection of rare British paperweights.
I am finding it very difficult to research a few of the items in the collection, as I have found the same objects to be attributed to several different makers / nationalities, mostly czech or murano and I am unsure which to believe and it has been difficult to find a definitive answer.
I am hoping there will be some assured expertise here to help me to identify these vases with more certainty.
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Definitely Whitefriars: check the date cane - the first "Caithness Whitefriars" weights were issued in 1981. Your's is most likely 1979, though the image is too small to read it.
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Hi your owl weight is shown at the top of this linked page :)
http://www.whitefriarsorg.co.uk/paperweights.php
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I am hoping there will be some assured expertise here to help me to identify these vases with more certainty.
Is this a vase or a paperweight, as I cannot tell from the photos. If a weight then it should be in the Glass Paperweights forum. Please let me know, and I can move it for you if needed. Ta!
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This large owl weight (The large Owl at Night) was not made in large numbers, so is a sought after weight - if you are looking to sell, that is.
Very nice set-up . Two sister weights are the Large butterfly and the large Bumble Bee - both are equally scarce.
Steve
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If you are looking to sell this one, please contact me. I have been looking for this paperweight for sometime. Thank you ..
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Hi vintageartglass,
I have been asked to contact you because I am based in the UK and my friend MILLEFIORI is very interested in your Owl paperweight. Millefiori is based in the USA and feels it would be easier for us to discuss this in the same country.
I cannot send you a private message at the moment as I keep getting an error message.
If you are looking to sell, let me know and perhaps I can help.
Regards,
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Tony, both need to add your email to your profile then a little envelope will appear below your names and you can email away to your hearts content mate.
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Thanks Chris, I see that the new member hasn't attached an e-mail yet. Hence the error message. It would be better if the message explained why, instead of just "error - you are not allowed to send messages".
Cheers
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The error message is correct. You aren't allowed to send private messages as that facility is disabled on the board. Members can choose to receive emails via the board but that is a different facility
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For confirmation about PM / email within the Board ...
Personal Messaging (PM) is only enabled for Moderators.
Emails can only be sent / received by general members when the relevant setting is checked in a member's Profile. The setting is under Account Settings and is activated by clicking the check box stating "Allow users to email me".
Currently, member Millefiori has that setting unchecked.
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To get a Whitefriars owl paperweight in a collection of oddments is very fortunate. As others have already said, this is a very rare weight and most Whitefriars collectors (including me) would sell their mother to get hold of this (my mother is vintage but still in full working order).
I would also be interested in acquiring this.
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Thank you for the laugh of the morning. I wouldn't do that to my mom. She is only 67..:) but Whitefriars Owl along with the bumble bee are on my bucket list. I was fortunate enough to get a butterfly couple of years ago here in US.
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I first mentioned the scarcity of this weight earlier in this thread - me and a number of others would like to add it to our collections. So put us out of our misery and tell us if you would be selling it in the near future.
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Hi Everyone,
Thank you for all the information on the paperweight, and Anne for kindly moving it to the correct category. I apologize for the late reply but I don't always check my computer everyday now, but I will make sure to check back in tomorrow.
The paperweights were not part of the small collection of vases, just one of a small collection of paperweights I have collected over the years, I have 5 or 6 similar ones.
I am not 100% sure about selling it as it is an attractive scene and I do like the owl and the stars which I find very pleasant.
I am also struggling to find a value for the paperweight as I cannot for the life of me find any auction results for it at all?
I do appreciate that some of you are interested in acquiring this design, can anyone give me a ball park idea of it's value or an estimate, or would I be better off sticking it on eBay?
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If you google it you will find the results for one sold on ebay June 2014 :)
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Hi there,
For some reason I cannot find the Google result that Roberta mentions. However, I have seen two such owls coming up for sale in the past (one at auction and one on Ebay) and if my memory serves me right both sold over £1000. And I suspect that dealers would ask more for such a weight...
So now you have an idea...
SophieB
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I should add that I am not interested in buying the weight; I do not collect Whitefriars. I was only imparting information.
SophieB
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:)
The owner of the weight could quite easily ask for private offers from all those interested, and then pick the best offer, in a sort of small silent auction, off board, given so many folk are already clamouring for it.
If it is for sale.
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Hi vintageartglass,
If you do decide to sell the weight (or any other glass item you may have), either to an interested GMB member, or through an online auction such as eBay, please start a new thread in the Market Place forum where discussions and contacts can be made in the proper context.
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However, I have seen two such owls coming up for sale in the past (one at auction and one on Ebay) and if my memory serves me right both sold over £1000. And I suspect that dealers would ask more for such a weight...
That is about right - the prices over the years for the owl (and the bee and butterfly) has always been upwards of £500 and more around the £800 overage. Which is why my shelves are bereft of examples of these. And, whilst they are nicely constructed weights, they do not have the qualities of say a Partridge (xmas 79), but they appear on the market so rarely, and so many people want one, they demand the higher prices. Dealers will happily pay top dollar as they will have collectors with the cash waiting... .
There are rarer Whitefriars weights but they do not have the star billing.....
I still want one however!!
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Just for the record here the pattern plate for this weight - hope it is of some interest
Dave
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here the pattern plate for this weight - hope it is of some interest
Dave
Very interesting to see. This is the area that isn't seen enough - the paraphernalia, the pattern plates, the experiments, trials etc.