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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Scott13 on August 27, 2015, 05:58:33 AM
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Hi, I'll try to describe this vase as accurately as I can.
Any help in dating it or any other info for that matter re it would be great.
Ht 16cms
Wt 395gms---it feels quite heavy for it's size.
The glass has a yellowish tint to it.
There is also quite a lot of water staining and base wear.
The inside is essentially the pattern reversed.
To me there's a bit of Arts and Crafts about it---1890s--1915s....
It looks as if it's been mould blown, possibly three separate moulds.
The base has a horizontal seam which runs round the circumference of the vase---the base mould may have had two parts.
The main body has two vertical seams( opposite each other). These run from the horizontal seam at the base to an upper section.
This upper section ( about 1 cm deep) has it's own two vertical seams( again opposite each other) which finish at the rim.
These seams don't line up with the main body seams.
The rim looks as if it's been finished by hand---there's a small flat section with tool marks; perhaps where some excess glass was sheared off?
Phew, all this for a 30p vase!
Thanks for looking
Scott
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Two more photos--- you may just about see the seams
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without a Reg. No. or some other mark/backstamp, I sense id failure looming very rapidly. Vases were made in such vast quantities and many without any form of identifying mark that this is probably a non-starter.
Always possible it's the period you suggest, but my own thoughts are more towards the 1930's - this slightly waisted shape, and the rectangular lens pattern would be consistent with pre-war designs. If you think of the Inwald 'Lord/Jacobean' range, then this has a similar lens pattern.
Sorry to be negative about something which obviously floats your boat - have you tried Pamela's sites - for vases?
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/
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Hi---I thought it might have pre-dated the 1930s because of of how it had been put together( mould blown, using multiple moulds)
Presumably the same method the bottle makers employed before machines took over?
But I'll keep an open mind and I'm always grateful for the opinions of others. Thanks.
And thanks also for the sites you've provided.
Scott
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It's not blown in multiple moulds, but the mould may have had several parts, including a base plate.
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Hi, ok thanks ,that's something else I've learnt. So a four part mould plus base plate would have been used to make my vase.
Scott
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Possibly - can't tell without handling it
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as a general rule, if you have two main vertical seams then it's reasonable to assume this was made in a two part mould - three if you count the base. When there is moulded patterning on the glass, the seams are often located to coincide with lines from the mould - an attempt to make the seams less obvious.
coming back to the comment about A.&C., I don't get the impression that this style had much, if any, influence on mould blown/pressed glass such as Scott's vase. If you look at Jackson's book on W/F's glass, and those pieces described as A.&C., there is a distinct Venetian delicacy, fineness and sinuous design, features which don't translate to the chunky utility types, such as this vase.
Confusingly, throughout Europe there were several overlapping, related styles that occurred from somewhere in the 1860's and on until the end of the 14-18 war, which did have an influence on designers of pressed or mould blown glass, but my opinion is that A.&C. wasn't one of them.
Of those styles that can be seen on pressed/mould blown glass, the neo-classical looks to be the earliest of these - and can be seen in the Greek Key, Sphinx, and urns with wreaths - some of these imitating Wedgwood's basalt, and others in vitro porcelain such as copies of Queen Anne sticks from Sowerby.
Sowerby produced items with a Japanese/Oriental flavour, the best known being possibly Queen's P. I. W. - and another fashion of the last quarter of the C19 was aesthetic, seen in most of Sowerby's nursery rhyme pieces - the shapes of which look to be almost forerunners of art nouveau. This may have been the last of the great arttistic styles - before everything went chunky with art deco - but again, nouveau doesn't look to lend itself to utility glass, although a lot of art glass was made in a nouveau style.
Not always easy to separate out the particular features of these styles, although all I think lack the apparent delicacy of A.&C. However, having said that, there's nothing very delicate abut Morris' chunky tables made in the A.&C. style :)