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Title: Trinket/powder dish = unknown American maker
Post by: Glasslover2015 on August 27, 2015, 07:38:41 PM
Help please?  I got this amazing piece recently, can't find anything on it?  It was suggested on the tag it might be European?  I love this and would appreciate any suggestions/comments - thank you kindly!!
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish???
Post by: Paul S. on August 28, 2015, 12:12:59 PM
hi welcome to the GMB.                   sorry, haven't a clue as to your dish..........    asking the obvious probably, but since it looks to contain uranium, does it glow under a uv or black light source?
'European' gives a very broad sweep of potential sources  -  but would agree, yes, is very likely since a lot of Uranium glass was made in Europe c. 1850 - 1950.

Looks rather large for a trinket set piece  -  might be a stand alone item of course - hope someone here can help you.
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish???
Post by: Glasslover2015 on August 28, 2015, 12:38:20 PM
Hi Paul, thank you!  Just on my way home with this, plan to check with black light first thing!  And mg husband reminded me the tag said European, Dutch???? I had forgotten it questioned if it might be Dutch.....if this was part of a set, how stunning!  That would be something to see❤️💙💖
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish???
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 28, 2015, 03:05:41 PM
A bigger picture would be useful, as we can't see details but I'd be more likely to think it was a US candy bowl
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish???
Post by: Ohio on August 29, 2015, 03:52:05 AM
This has already made the rounds in the U.S. & I suggested the OP try here since its not U.S. to anyone's knowledge.
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish???
Post by: Paul S. on August 29, 2015, 07:46:09 AM
might possibly help to know if there is any age related type of wear, or if it looks to be newish.
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish???
Post by: Ohio on August 30, 2015, 04:32:45 AM
I think what would be most helpful is a new photo taken in daylight (no flash & no additional background lighting) as the existing photo is simply so bright that it washes out most of the detail.
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish???
Post by: Glasslover2015 on August 31, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
Thank you everyone!  A very kind member of the IPBA found it in a book by Whitmyer, it is American, no manufacturer noted, was a stand alone piece rather than part of a set, and came in pink and green

Sorry the pic was not better, I had to resize it to be able to post it

Appreciate your help!
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish = unknown American maker
Post by: Ohio on September 16, 2015, 02:02:07 PM
For accuracy...just because this appears in Whitmyers which is 25 years old in terms of publish does not document its American. It may be or it may not as it also was not recognized on a U.S. glass  board 0f 2,500 members. Whitmyers reference does not provide a country of origin or manufacturer only assigns a name invented by them...Lady Cameo. European vanity pieces can also be found in Whitmyers with no country of origin or manufacturer named. 
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish = unknown American maker
Post by: flying free on September 20, 2015, 05:33:28 PM
Ken I have asked for the thread to be moved back to unidentified glass :) Otherwise it will remain in USA and people might not notice it.
m
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish = unknown American maker
Post by: Ohio on September 23, 2015, 02:46:41 PM
M its on my list to get ahold of Margaret Whitmyer as we live only 17 miles apart & have known one another for a couple of decades. She may have found further info by now. I know she had a new book she finished 4-5 years ago that was huge & had ided quite alot since so much info has now surfaced & readily available. Unfortunately she could not find a single publisher, not even the publisher that had previously published all her Fenton books...everyone of them said nobody is interested in glass anymore & sales would be too small to make it a worthwhile project. Actually I have a small write-up finished pertaining to the Dermay & Ramses markings where we now (summer 2015)know at least a few of the U.S. manufacturers that did the pours. I'll post it sometime to the trinkets section. It would seem that Dermay & Ramses are definately under the same banner...that of Jerome Baum of NY. Ken
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish = unknown American maker
Post by: flying free on September 23, 2015, 02:58:47 PM
Really?

It's weird especially when there is so much more information now and people are so much better informed.  And indeed want to be better informed about what they are collecting. 

m

Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish = unknown American maker
Post by: Ohio on September 23, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Yes...U.S. publishers it would seem are no longer interested. The largest publisher....Collector Books posted this in 2012. "August 1, 2012 - In the fall of 2010 we made the decision to suspend the publication of titles pertaining to antiques and collectibles and to sell off our inventory of such titles."

I amended the original post to include some new info on Dermay/Ramses.
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish = unknown American maker
Post by: flying free on September 23, 2015, 03:45:55 PM
What goes around comes around :)

Beauty and quality will always out - of whatever age. 

m
Title: Re: Trinket/powder dish = unknown American maker
Post by: Ohio on September 23, 2015, 10:49:49 PM
Well of all things I ran into Margaret & her Husband Kenn at a local mall. Tonight she send me this which is the latest on Cameo Lady.

" The 8" tall "Lady Cameo" powder jars have an oval bowl and an oval foot. The finial is the profile of the head of a lovely lady with short, curly hair. A headband crosses the top of her head with a flower positioned over each ear. The surface of the lid has twelve narrow embossed bands of overlapping leaves that radiate outward from the finial. Between each band of leaves is a single embossed flower. The 5.25" long oval powder compartment has four plain recessed embossed hearts. The area between the hearts is embossed with multiple-sized leaves. The pedestal stem contains an embossed cameo which matches the finial of the lid, and the bottom of the pedestal is flanked by two curlicues. The two colors found most often are green satin and pink satin. The jar has also been found in black satin and blue satin."

Margaret has not discovered the manufacturer however she is relatively certain its of U.S. manufacture so I will side with her judgement. On the plus side she is planning in the near future to release an electronic powder jar update in the form of a book that can be uploaded onto a PC or tablet that can be carried anywhere you go. This will be a powder jar book only no perfumes. The perfume version may be available at a later date. Ken