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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: selinkyble on September 03, 2015, 09:13:08 AM
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Hello
Can anyone help identify this acid etch on the base of a crystal glass please?
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hello and welcome to the GMB :)
If your glass originates within the U.K., then the S is possibly the mark of a pre-war retail store by the name of Stonier who was based in Liverpool - see this link
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6156.msg52512.html#msg52512
If might be worth checking to see if the cut pattern is from Stuart -more likely than T/Webb - although both manufacturers sold good through this outlet.
If you use the Board's search facility with searches based on the word Stonier, you should get quite a lot of interesting material to read.
should have added.. may we see a picture of the whole glass please - preferable with a uniform grey/black background. thanks. :)
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Thanks so much Paul. You are totally awesome!
The pattern is a webb - regency
http://replacements.com/webquote/WETREG.htm
:)
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the impossible we try to do immediately - miracles take just a few minutes longer ;) ;)
As you will see if you look through the Board's search, we've had quite a few pieces here with this upper case S, but I think the frequency with which they turn up now is getting a little less - they make for a good thematic sort of collection.
Good to see that you've managed to run down the pattern - we often draw a blank when trying to locate the name of many cut designs.
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Except the S has no =. I would expect =S= for Stonier. Second perhaps
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could be wrong, but thought I had seen them without the additional marks - and it may well be the case that the lack of same might indicate a second.
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I'm sure that -S- indicates a Stuart second, otherwise it's the full word. Stonier I know little about, but thought just S was visible.
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I posted a blue Candle stick ,identified as a Webb piece ,with the same S and I think everyone decided it was a second mark and there was a flaw in the rim,are there any obvious flaws in this glass?
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the clincher would be if this particular cut design was known to originate after the demise of Stonier - although have to say I don't know the answer to that - but would be conclusive of the S not being connected to Stonier. Unfortunately, think I've parted with all of my Stonier pieces so really can't now check.
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Just to clarify, I have a small dish with the Rd No. 681649 acid-etched and =S=. I felt sure this was a Stuart second as the glass has a few bubbles and would certainly have been rejected as a first.
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That's the Stonier mark, not a second mark. Standards have risen with people's expectations
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Looks like a Webb second mark, we need to see the whole glass to see if it has any faults, bubbles distortion unevenness problems with bowl stem and base size.
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Assume, Chris, that you're referring to the op's mark, and not David's, which as Christine has said is definitely Stonier. The confusion is probably mine for having said the op's was possibly Stonier - I had some notion that I'd seen some older Stuart pieces without the = either side, but I may have been mistaken. I suspect that this type of stand alone S on a modern piece probably does indicate a 'second'.
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Yes Christine has yet to be wrong about anything.
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Yes Christine has yet to be wrong about anything.
That is definitely not true