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Title: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: Ben.unwin on October 18, 2015, 01:17:05 PM

I have this glass which is signed on the base, I have no idea of the origin!
Its dated and have an edition number but I don't know anything more.
Any help would be appreciated

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 18, 2015, 05:16:53 PM

It appears to read Joan (or perhaps Ioan, a man's name) de Chazal to me.

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: Ben.unwin on October 18, 2015, 05:19:33 PM

I've tried looking on the internet for similar items and changed spellings but got nothing back.
I'm a bit stuck, I thought it could of been a bit of Wedgwood but I've come up short!

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 18, 2015, 06:25:17 PM

 :)
It's possible somebody with some artistic talent  just bought a nice glass (sorry I don't recognise it - this isn't my kind of area) and had a (really good) shot at engraving on it, rather than it being something "official".

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: Ben.unwin on October 18, 2015, 06:37:31 PM

It sounds possible although I don't think that's the case as it has "no 91"
Making me believe that this is an edition and something professionally done.
 ??? ???
Maybe someone else can help because I'm stumped

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: oldglassman on October 18, 2015, 06:51:45 PM

Hi ,
         Can you tell if this decoration is wheel cut or stippled , its looks like it may be stippled to me , if so then the lighter area's will be dotted with the diamond point and the dark areas left untouched to create the contrast,
I would not be surprised if the glass was contemporary with the decoration,although in the 18thc style I am pretty certain it is a reproduction,if not contemporary then almost certainly sometime in the 20th century.
It may be an idea to contact the Guild of glass engravers and ask about the name,with no 91 on this glass the artist is no beginner.

cheers ,
Peter.

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 18, 2015, 06:58:44 PM

It's dated Jan 1934

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: Ivo on October 18, 2015, 07:10:49 PM

I read that as 1984 and the maker's name as Joan -  so either a Catalan man or a British woman.

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 19, 2015, 06:12:08 AM

You could be right about the date Ivo. Can we have a picture with the date the right way round please

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 19, 2015, 11:02:12 AM

I read 1984 myself.

(Ioan Nemtoi is a Romanian glassmaker, (living and working in Canada) - so Ioan may be a Romanian name as well as Catalan. He's the only Ioan I know of.)

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: Ben.unwin on October 19, 2015, 03:46:51 PM

Here are some photos of the base and the flower itself to help the investigation!
Thanks for everyones input!

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 19, 2015, 03:50:42 PM

 :)

That's not amateur work. Thanks for the much better images.
I think 1984 is correct too.

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: oldglassman on October 19, 2015, 04:11:41 PM

Hi ,
            Thanks for the extra photos , I don't think this is stipple engraved i think it is more likely to be diamond etched or etched by mechanical means ,I understand that dentists drills are a favourite tool , I still reckon your best bet would be to contact the guild of engravers , they have records going back many years of engravers that were active in the 20th century.

cheers ,
       Peter.

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: Ben.unwin on October 19, 2015, 08:52:12 PM

Yes I thought this was a quality piece when I picked it up.
I've sent an email although not sure if I'll get a reply with help but we shall see.
Any more input welcome

Title: Re: Air twist glass with etched flower
Post by: Ben.unwin on October 25, 2015, 06:27:36 PM

No reply from the site you recommended unfortunately I'm back at square one  :'(