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Title: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 10, 2015, 09:09:24 AM
I am not an glass expert, and not knowing an answer to friends question urged me to inquire about the style and possible age of this glass ashtray(which I like very much by the way). I do not need value appraisal(http://)
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Ivo on November 10, 2015, 09:27:04 AM
Welcome to the glass message board - we're happy to help you.

The syrup and cream slag glass has long been a mystery and is still not completely solved - but it has been suggested that it is Croatian or Serbian from the 1970s.  We're hoping that you are in a position to find a definite attribution? If you do, then please let us know.
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 10, 2015, 09:32:57 AM
Thanks Ivo!
It does look 70s.
I am not sure really if I shall be able to trace the maker.
My guess was that it was italian.
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 10, 2015, 09:50:35 AM
Welcome to the glass message board - we're happy to help you.

The syrup and cream slag glass has long been a mystery and is still not completely solved - but it has been suggested that it is Croatian or Serbian from the 1970s.  We're hoping that you are in a position to find a definite attribution? If you do, then please let us know.


Do you know if wether it is blown glas or moulded?
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: rocco on November 10, 2015, 10:01:50 AM
Here is some interesting information about these slag glass pieces
>> http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2011-2w-sg-sts-abel-schale-taube.pdf (http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2011-2w-sg-sts-abel-schale-taube.pdf)
>> http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2012-4w-vorgic-hrastnik-schale-taube.pdf (http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2012-4w-vorgic-hrastnik-schale-taube.pdf)

I think these pieces date from the 1970s; they are frequently seen here in Vienna, so probably brought home from the "Yugoslavia" holiday ;)

Michael
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 10, 2015, 10:10:27 AM
It is pressed glass
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 10, 2015, 10:16:39 AM
Thanks everyone
 :)
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: dejanborkic on November 10, 2015, 01:59:40 PM
It looks like it's the work of glassworks Hrastnik (today Slovenia, then Yugoslavia) 1970s
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 10, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
You say that its pressed glass....Did you see two holes on the bottom side? One lip shaped 7mm in dead center and the other just off the center stand. Also I notice pattern swirl on the bottom side which would indicate a blowing process to me!?
If its from Hrastnik, does anyone have a photo with a work similar to diamonds on the back of this ashtray?
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 10, 2015, 03:04:42 PM
Rocco,

Thanks for the files.
I am looking at this pigeon bowl that has very similar colour spectrum and I can see that its colours are distinctly separated in three segments, whereas when I look at the ashtray, it has same colour patern all over.
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 10, 2015, 03:15:17 PM
Those are just pressing flaws. It's not blown glass
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 10, 2015, 06:42:05 PM
In couple places where it is chipped(edges) you can see glass below is clear, but you can also see dark svirled layers within clear glass like in marbles
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 10, 2015, 07:14:58 PM
It's still pressed glass made in a two-part mould (base and plunger). It has nowhere where it was attached to a blowing iron or a pontil iron. "Slag" glass like this has been pressed since the mid 19th century
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 10, 2015, 07:21:40 PM
Ok.
If its a made from two moulds souldn't it have a seam?
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 10, 2015, 07:33:38 PM
Not two moulds: a base plate and a plunger. No seams because nothing opens
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 17, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
Few days ago I bought a pigeon bowl that has the same colour palette but it looks like style may be different.
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: David E on November 18, 2015, 09:11:28 AM
The bowl would have needed a two-part mould (or three-/four- depending on the seams).
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 18, 2015, 05:09:42 PM
It  has one seam that splits it ideally in two parts vertically.
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: flying free on November 20, 2015, 10:17:54 PM
Dejanborkic says earlier in the thread on the reply to your post here

'It looks like it's the work of glassworks Hrastnik (today Slovenia, then Yugoslavia) 1970s'

There is a little more information also on this link here -

http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2012-4w-vorgic-hrastnik-schale-taube.pdf

m
Title: Re: My charismatic ashtray
Post by: Makanudo on November 21, 2015, 05:22:09 AM
Thanks!