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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: pepe88 on January 22, 2016, 05:11:50 AM
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I just picked up this vase and wondered what kind of info I could find out about it. Any ideas on value? I did find a little info on the pattern (water wave), but not much else.It's just under 6". Thanks!
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Welcome to the GMB.
Nice piece.
RD 58375 was registered by Thomas Webb & Sons Limited on 10 October 1886.
Mervyn Gulliver (on page 272 of "Victorian Decorative Glass - British Designs 1850-1914") shows the design representation , and describes it as " Diaper of irregular lines forming a watery or wavy pattern on the surface of the glass".
As to value, GMB members do not normally offer ideas of valuation of pieces because the value is so subjective.
Fred.
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Pepe88 welcome to the board.
The design image you uploaded carries a copyright notice showing it was taken by one of our members at the National Archives. Under the terms that the said member takes these images at the Nat. Archives, they are not intended to be copied by other people, so I have removed it as per Board Policy on the use of such images.
The link to Paul's information and his original images about this registration may be seen here:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,59074.msg334525.html#msg334525 (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,59074.msg334525.html#msg334525)
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lovely vase and gorgeous colours.
I'm very curious to see a clear shot of the rim of the vase if you have time to post it please? It looks like it is cut and polished flat and then gilded?
Thanks
m
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I'm not here to argue. I have been a photographer for 2 decades and am quite well versed in copyright. I'm pretty sure the use of that picture is covered under the fair use act. Maybe we aren't dealing with something from the US. I do think that it falls under the Fair Dealing laws of the UK and NZ.
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I will get a close up shot of the rim when the piece gets to me. I think it looks finished though in the pattern right under the gold. I also had 3 other people that I consider experts look at it and none of them questioned the rim.
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Pepe88, irrespective of your familiarity with the US copyright laws, this board has a policy on the use of copyright images which use of the board requires you to adhere to please. Paul has made a specific arrangement with the National Archives in the UK to photograph their records on a strict understanding, as they are not images which are normally available. Those images are made available here under those specific rules and may not be copied by others. By abusing that you put the arrangement at risk. I hope this explains our position clearly.
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That's a very good explanation! Thank you SO much. That image was very valuable in my quest to find out more about the pattern.
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I'm not here to argue. I have been a photographer for 2 decades and am quite well versed in copyright. I'm pretty sure the use of that picture is covered under the fair use act. Maybe we aren't dealing with something from the US. I do think that it falls under the Fair Dealing laws of the UK and NZ.
That is indeed part of the problem, Pepe. It's an international forum including Australia, Europe, North America and Great Britian (there may be other parts of the world included as well.) Of course, everyone has different copyright laws and so, in order to be safe, the moderators have elected to use the broadest terms.
Welcome to the forum. You will see that everyone here is very friendly and many are absolutely brilliant when it comes to glass knowledge.
Carolyn (I'm not one of the brilliant ones, but I'm learning :) )
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:)
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Anne and I must have been typing at the same time :D
Carolyn
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I found a photo of a rose bowl bearing the same RD no. on the Metropolitan Museum website. It shows the wave pattern very clearly, you can view it here: http://metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/6893
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I always thought that picture was of a pattern I've heard called "maze". Now I can clearly see it's water wave. Nice find!