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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: keith on January 24, 2016, 01:12:29 PM
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Saw one of these yesterday with a Caithness label, the piece was quite cheap ( already have this one ) and the label was well stuck down, after looking up Caithness history I see they were bought up by Dartington in 2006, just wondered why they would stick a Caithness label on a Brierley / S&W's piece, seems a bit odd, ??? ??? ;D
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I would personally suspect the label was not applied in an official capacity.
This piece would surely predate Caithness - perhaps even the existence of Caithness?
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Forgot about that :-[ very old stock maybe ? trying to dig myself out here !
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I don't know the age of the S&W pieces, although I have a flared bowl myself.
Do you know the dates of these?
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I saw two of these in as light blue colour today, different shapes of course.
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I was under the impression they were late 30s there are pictures in the RB'y S &W's archives but no date. There was a pair on a popular tv antiques programme, the dealer selling them said they were Whitefriars and the small bowl next to the vase was a lid making it a ginger jar, the fact it was a bowl and not a lid was obvious, ::) ;D ;D have yet to see one in blue.
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There old, the two today were badly water stained, i'll pick them up next time i see them, ive seen them three or four times, i'll put a pick on here if there not sold.
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Whew, I sort of suspected '30s. (but then panicked about the '40s and '50s)
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This is what i saw Keith but in two other shapes.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Whitefriars-Blue-Bubble-Vase-FREE-MAILING-/151964775257?hash=item2361ce7359:g:BggAAOSw5dNWqM-S
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Definitely S & W's, bad 'bloom' on that wouldn't pay that much for it ::) p.s. just seen a piece of 'Foundry' glass on your ebay site, first one I've seen in a while, the diagonal stripe vase.
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I'm thinking ive also seen these in amber, none have ever been signed, if it's the green square wrythen shaped one Keith it's close to being recycled if you want it?
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One of these, got three now, ;D
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How old are they Keith? and what do you mean by foundry glass? a maker an end of day? a company?
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It was part of Royal Brierley / S & W's a small studio set up in the early 1980s, usually marked 'Foundry' '86 or '87, didn't last very long. ::) these pieces were originally called 'striped shirt and bow tie' but the name was changed to 'papillion'
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Found another blue bubble vase Keith by chance today I'll put a pick on tomorrow the base looks the same as a purple one I've got That's four shapes I've seen recently the bubbles in all four are a lot smaller though, thanks for the help on the other I've changed the listing.
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Bit more info' at this link, just blowing my own trumpet ::) ;D ;D
http://www.blackcountrybugle.co.uk/touch-glass-Royal-Brierley-Crystal-memories/story-21185832-detail/story.html
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The blue one, 8 inches high, 4 1/2 across the rim and 3 1/2 inches across the base.
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I'm afraid I come to this discussion a little late, but thought I'd confirm one or two things.
The bubbled pieces have been mistaken as Whitefriars for as long as I've been collecting (40+ years). They are (as Has been said) S&W/RB, and, as far as I know, were made in the 30's and into the 50's. This means that they pre-date both Caithness and Dartington - so the label has definitely been fixed on by someone after leaving the factory.
I sure most (if not all) of you know that Dartington now own the Royal Brierley name, but just in case it's worth a mention - if only as a bit of irony!
The bubbled pieces that are ginger jars have been around from time to time since I started dealing back in June 1986; they always look as if the lid is an ash tray turned into a new use. I'm sure I have a threaded version in the store somewhere - I seem to recall that they have a much better 'fit'.
Cheers, Nigel
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Have yet to see one with a lid, must keep looking ! ::) ;D ;D
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Is the blue vase in reply #16 the same range as the bowls in this topic? http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,28310.20.html
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Yep ;D ;D couple more....
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The bowl with the problematic lid? Yes the same range Anne.
Cheers, Nigel