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Title: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number? ID = Pattern 9763
Post by: Gowdod on February 05, 2016, 05:54:12 PM
Dear All,

acquired today, undoubtedly Whitefriars ( I bought a Kingfisher Blue one too, pictures to follow. ) however I have never seen this shape of bowl before. 5 1/8th inches wide, clear cased meadow green with a deep bowl. Can anybody advise the pattern please. I don't recall seeing it in Evans or Jackson books on Whitefriars.

Thank you as always for your help.

Kind Regards

Andrew
Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: Gowdod on February 05, 2016, 07:16:37 PM
Herewith in Kingfisher.

 :)
Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: johnphilip on February 05, 2016, 09:06:13 PM
Sorry dont think its  Whitefriars the rim looks wrong , can we have a picture up the right way so i can be sure , cheers .

Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: Gowdod on February 05, 2016, 10:13:09 PM
Dear John,

the pictures do show the bottom and tops of each bowl.  :) The top has the fire/hot finish and the base is that which is ground. If you look at the part pictures those are of the tops of the bowl and show the clear casing esp. in the Kingfisher piece. They are very similar to standard textured candlesticks however much wider, 5 1/8 Inches and with a distinct bowl. As I said the bowls are very unusual and most definitely Whitefriars Kingfisher Blue and Meadow Green ( I have hundreds of Whitefriars pieces and they are quite unmistakable, even a little collection of fake Bricklayers  ). Happy to post some others in the same colourway for direct comparison in the same light, as that may help.

It's the pattern number that intrigues me.

I will send better pictures after Monday on my return.

Kind Regards

Andrew

ps still being hit by picture rotational problems....arghhhhhhh.


Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: Gowdod on February 06, 2016, 08:07:39 AM
Rotated?
Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: Marc1976 on February 06, 2016, 09:26:39 AM
Your bowl is a 9763 from 1971.

http://www.whitefriarsorg.co.uk/whitefriars-cat-1971.php
Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: Gowdod on February 06, 2016, 04:32:11 PM
Dear Marc,

many thanks indeed, appreciated.

Kind Regards

Andre
Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: KevinH on February 06, 2016, 06:10:08 PM
Hi Andrew. Your test pic for rotation in Reply #4 is ok.
Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: Gowdod on February 06, 2016, 07:04:03 PM
Dear Kevin,

 :) ;D

I ended up using Windows Paint to re-size and rotate. I'm getting there.

Have fun.

Andrew
Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: johnphilip on February 06, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Sorry Andrew glad to be wrong i am waiting for cataract ops so should have kept quiet
i do know a bit about Whitefriars as i was in partnership with Ray Annenberg buying and selling glass for about 20 years and  spend many Sunday liquid  lunches with the few Whitefriars workers still standing , looks like you have a nice collection , i collect mostly Powell now due to lack of space 
cheers jp
Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: Gowdod on February 06, 2016, 10:08:06 PM
Dear JP,

all's fine. I started collecting Baxter's Tangerine pieces 15 years ago and I don't think there are many I do not have, of course  not this pattern  :) ... thought you might like this one in a bud vase.

I have a member of my family with Macular degeneration so do empathise.

All the best.

Andrew
Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number?
Post by: johnphilip on February 07, 2016, 09:04:04 AM
Andrew i have mild macular as well but there is a new treatment only anounced this week using cheap statins , so things are looking up . Have you seen the two massive Tangerine ducks my mate Alan Brown owns they are on one of the  forums , he also worked at WFs , before i moved from Harrow Weald i could see them sitting on his window sill every time i looked out of my window , he greased the drain pipe to stop me nicking them  i also have one of Rays Broadswords only a few were made Ron Wilkie made the handle of mine so its unique . i will be with Ray and a couple of other WFs guys at Knebworth if you are going say hello .jp . Nice Tangerine bud vase , rare yes .

Title: Re: Whitefriars - Meadow Green Bowl - Pattern Number? ID = Pattern 9763
Post by: chriscooper on February 11, 2016, 04:57:09 PM
Not fire polished rims though cold worked ground and polished prone to chipping easily

Chris