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Title: Signed Engraved Lady Vase. ID = Milan Mottl
Post by: Ohio on February 23, 2016, 07:43:14 PM
Five months ago I went on a appraisal for the estate of a 92 year old lady. Most of the 77 pieces were U.S. high end, however a couple were in all probability European & one was very skillfully engraved. I had this saved away before it was sold & purchased it today since I really like quality engraved glass & its relatively hard to find these days. All the glass was anywhere from 1890 to 1925. This vase is 10" height, 4" width X 2 1/2" width. Glass is 1/2" thick & engraving is 4 levels. The signature is extremely small on the bottom & was difficult to read & photograph although I think it says Mottl or Mottle...I cannot tell even under a 20X loop. Anyway I thought I post here to see if anyone has any ideas...am fairly certain it is European. Thanks, Ken
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: Anne on February 24, 2016, 12:25:06 AM
Hi Ken, I wondered if this is Milan Mottl glassworks in Karlovy Vary. Their website has vanished but there is an archived copy on the Wayback Machine: LINK (https://web.archive.org/web/20080311123952/http://www.milanmottl.com/index.php?typ=MLC)
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: Ohio on February 24, 2016, 04:17:58 PM
Thanks Anne, much appreciated. Unfortunately I must be doing something wrong as I can get to the decorative glass category but when I try to enter "vase" category nothing happens. I did access Vazy in the czech language but again it was a dead end as far as pictures go. It seems the front of the catalog is available but the categories Candleholders. Vases, etc. are not available.
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: Anne on February 24, 2016, 05:30:39 PM
That often happens on archive.org, Ken. Parts of a site get saved, other bits not, especially so in earlier years...   it seems that Milan Mottl ceased around 2009.  Perhaps one of the Czech specialists may be able to add more when they look in.
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: Ohio on February 24, 2016, 06:13:40 PM
Thanks for trying Anne. At least I have a possibility that may pan out in the future.
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: Anne on February 24, 2016, 07:31:33 PM
Ken, I found Czech glass artist Dalibor Nesnidal, who worked at Milan Mottl here: http://vsemart.com/engraved-glass-and-metal-sculpture-by-dalibor-nesnidal/ - it might be worth an email to him via http://dalibornesnidal.webnode.cz/ with images and see if he can help?
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: Anne on February 24, 2016, 07:47:57 PM
And a roughly translated article which has several mentions of Mottl here: http://rusnewsjournal.com/3/145425/ :)
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: Anne on February 24, 2016, 08:03:50 PM
Another vase with the Milan Mottl label and the Mottl etched mark - you can compare your mark with this one Ken:
http://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/3539555-milan-mottl-zware-kristallen-vaas-spijkerglas

and some wine glasses also marked Mottl:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Milan-Mottl-Etched-Hummingbird-Bamboo-Crystal-Wine-Glasses-Stem-Glass-Set-/222028654247
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: Ohio on February 25, 2016, 03:18:20 PM
Well Anne you are Godsend simple as that. Signature is a 100% match to mine on Wines so it is Milan Mottl. I did email the engraver from the site url so I will have to wait & see. The site is in Czech so hope he reads english...he probaly does. Thanks again & I'll let you know anything I receive from gentleman.
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: bOBA on February 26, 2016, 11:30:16 AM
Although I have only seen two or three such examples, Mottl was-is the producer of some extremely high quality modern art glass (post 1960) of the cut kind. The style and technique and quality can be closely compared to that of Lipsky designs for Exbor. It seems to me that there may even been designers and cutters linked to both houses. These posted pieces remind me too, of early Exbor engraved pieces before they made more modern looking glass. All top quality.

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: Ohio on February 28, 2016, 08:55:38 PM
OK here is what I found out from Dalibor Nesnidal & another source. Legit Mottl. Two master engravers Mr. Bilek or Mr. Balcar & sometimes they signed them at a corner This one is unsigned.
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase
Post by: Anne on February 28, 2016, 10:05:14 PM
Excellent news, Ken. I am thrilled that you had a reply from Dalibor Nesnidal. :)
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase. ID = Milan Mottl
Post by: Ohio on February 29, 2016, 05:19:40 PM
Would never have found close to what I did without all your help Anne. Very much appreciated. Ken
Title: Re: Signed Engraved Lady Vase. ID = Milan Mottl
Post by: Anne on February 29, 2016, 05:31:46 PM
No worries Ken, always happy to help. :) And your info adds more knowledge we can all share on the board.