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Title: 18th Century Style Glass Twist Stem
Post by: RoyJ99 on March 26, 2016, 05:31:16 PM

This glass came in a mixed lot I bought at auction a few months ago but I've just got round to taking photos of it now. It measures 22.2cm in height, 6.9cm across the bowl, 7.3cm across the foot and is very light weighing only 132g. Obviously blown as there are clear ripples or striations in the glass along with some small inclusions and bubbles with a conical foot and broken, unpolished pontil mark. Now I'm pretty sure this is a modern reproduction however as can hopefully be seen in the photos there is significant wear around the rim of the foot. So my question is this, I'm aware of many of the techniques that are employed in the production of fake Chinese antiques which give the impression of age so are people doing the same with glass in order to deceive or is this just natural wear in your opinion.

Thanks.

Roy

Title: Re: 18th Century Style Glass Twist Stem
Post by: RoyJ99 on March 26, 2016, 05:31:50 PM

Couple of more images

Title: Re: 18th Century Style Glass Twist Stem
Post by: bat20 on March 26, 2016, 06:43:55 PM

The wear does seem a tad harsh,I don't know enough about reproductions so I hope this turns into a good thread.Interesting you mention inclusions in the glass??i wonder if the real wear was lost reducing the foot?,anyway enough of my flounderings in the dark!

Title: Re: 18th Century Style Glass Twist Stem
Post by: RoyJ99 on March 26, 2016, 09:20:36 PM

Thanks for the reply bat20, not sure I'm following you fully with regards to the foot being reduced, you think the foot has been ground down?

Title: Re: 18th Century Style Glass Twist Stem
Post by: bat20 on March 27, 2016, 08:00:26 AM

Hi Roy,I only suggested that if it is a composite stem wine glass from the mid 18 century,the bowl looks a bit exaggerated without the thickness in the bottom you'd expect,but I don't know enough to say for sure.People do copy old glass,I don't know if they go as far as to add stones and seeds though?let's hope someone else will share their knowledge.

Title: Re: 18th Century Style Glass Twist Stem
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 27, 2016, 09:40:38 AM

It looks too regular to be from the 1700s but people have been copying antique styles for a very long while so the age wear could be genuine

Title: Re: 18th Century Style Glass Twist Stem
Post by: oldglassman on March 27, 2016, 10:02:15 AM

 Hi ,
          The glass is a reproduction of an 18th c style,but not quite right !!,as Christine says copies have been around for a very long time and this one could be anything from last week to possibly a 100 yrs old, seeds,inclusions etc are signs of being hand made and not introduced for fakery , just the results of being hand blown , the wear to me looks pretty normal for something that's possibly been around for a few decades and does not in my opinion look reduced in size.

cheers ,

Peter.