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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: 2*pleese*u on April 09, 2016, 01:19:30 AM
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Here is a vase that is sure to confound the most knowledgeable art glass collector. I have been collecting for 15 years and it really frustrates me after 5 years of research, I still have not identified this one. the vase stands 12-1/2" tall with a 3-3/4" base and a 6" by 6" upper rim area at the shoulders. There is extensive wear to the base. there are no identifiable markings to the base by any means. the glass is heavy and thick and the foot of the vase is highly unusual. It is a opeac clear glass on the base area graduating into a green color towards the top. All corners are rounded off. It is essentially Square in shape from a birds eye view with the softened corners. the vase has a indent or pinch on all four sides. the upper vase opening is located at the top after the vase sides curve in level from the shoulder edges and is circular. the inside rim diameter is 4-1/8". The pattern or texture is a very consistent glue chip technique. Any help would be appreciated. The only two possibilities I can come up with are Pierre D'Avesn, France or Maurice Marinot France as well. here is a link where I have this vase posted and you can see it. Michael. http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/187422-unknown-fabulous-glue-chip-vase-art-nou
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Interesting vase, I don't remember seeing anything like it before. Could you add your photos to this topic? They will be a permanent reference then.
John
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My guts (for which I take no responsibility, sorry! ;)) think this might be reasonably recent Polish.
It has absolutely nothing to do with Maurice Marinot. Sorry, I can't help more. :)
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My guts (for which I take no responsibility, sorry! ;)) think this might be reasonably recent Polish.
It has absolutely nothing to do with Maurice Marinot. Sorry, I can't help more. :)
Can you be more specific other than Polish? New? Extensive wear to the base so this makes this a recent piece?
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Interesting vase, I don't remember seeing anything like it before. Could you add your photos to this topic? They will be a permanent reference then.
John
Dear John, Quite a confusing web site! I have not been here for quite along time. I would love to send a photo or two and did try to upload a couple of photos but the web site is saying it has to be a certain size and I do not know how to reduce the photos I have taken. Got any ideas? Michael.
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Michael, we have lots of helpful info in the HELP forum (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/board,22.0.html), including several on how to create images to fit our size limits. Check this one out to start with: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html
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attempt at photos
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if you can reduce your photos to 600 by 400 pixels they should fit the size requirements and upload :) hope this helps.
m
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;D
I'm ancient, the '80s were just yesterday.
Age-related wear can appear quite quickly on a piece that is moved around a lot, especially on crystal as it is soft.
Unfortuanately, there is not a great deal known about the masses of good quality glass produced in Poland over the last 20 odd years or so. They've just been busily making good quality glass, much of which was sold as "Krosno" but that is a very large land area where glassmaking takes place. We know almost nothing of the actual manufacturers and now, it's sold under a generic importing business called LSA.
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I agree with Sue age wear on the foot does not mean a lot at all, I picked up two pieces today 1870's in date and look brand new, no wear, nothing. My favourite coke glass that's been on here before, I think ten years old, looks Georgian in date. It's all to do with weight, movement and use. Karlin Rushbrooke liked his four hole thing, very 1970's.
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The 'four pedestal' base is interesting - I have seen similar coming out of China in recent years but the rest of the vase knocks that possibility well into the long grass.
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Dear Glass obsessed, Thanks for your insight! I too think this was made by a skilled artisan. It is interesting to note that the pattern created by the glue chip process is unlike the pattern of many glue chip vases I have seen that are Kralik and associated with Pierre D' Avesn. I personally think this is an item made in france and not bohemian but Of course, I have no proof of that yet. Michael. ;)
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;D
I'm ancient, the '80s were just yesterday.
Age-related wear can appear quite quickly on a piece that is moved around a lot, especially on crystal as it is soft.
Unfortuanately, there is not a great deal known about the masses of good quality glass produced in Poland over the last 20 odd years or so. They've just been busily making good quality glass, much of which was sold as "Krosno" but that is a very large land area where glassmaking takes place. We know almost nothing of the actual manufacturers and now, it's sold under a generic importing business called LSA.
Dear chopin-liszt, I really do not believe for a New York minute this is Polish and or Krosno. The talent displayed in the workmanship is far far from the talent if you could say that about the firm of krosno. I also believe if this were Polish or Chinese there would be far more of these made and easier to research.
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Interesting vase, I don't remember seeing anything like it before. Could you add your photos to this topic? They will be a permanent reference then.
John
Dear John, I am still getting comfortable with this site and how to navigate it. I just uploaded the Irfanview tool, Now I just need to figure out how to use it to reduce my photos.
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Michael, we have lots of helpful info in the HELP forum (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/board,22.0.html), including several on how to create images to fit our size limits. Check this one out to start with: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html
Dear Anne, I did try to upload the photos I had but ran into a glitch on my computer. I did however down load the Irfanview tool and need to figure out how to impliment the use of it to reduce the size of my photos...I am working on it! Warm Regards Michael.
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Just before you save the image (as a JPG), then adjust the JPEG compression to about 80%. That helps reduce the filesize. Reducing the size to less than 800 pixels on the longest side is necessary as well. If the eventual file is still above the 125KB limit, then decrease the compression a little.