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Title: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: mrs vulture on April 13, 2016, 08:15:19 PM
Hi,I bought this bowl at the local car boot today. Its a big thing at 12 inches. Its darker than the photos show being more ruby red. Oval shaped controlled bubbles with a clear rim with gold adventurine in the rim only. It has ribs on the underside, a polished base with some tool marks. Looks gorgeous in the sunshine. Not my usual sort of thing, but will be keeping it.  Does anyone know where it was made please?   Any comments welcome,  Cheryl.
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: Greg. on April 13, 2016, 08:27:25 PM
Hi Cheryl, your bowl was made in Murano, although quite a few companies produced very similar pieces.
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: Ivo on April 13, 2016, 08:31:08 PM
I just last week found out that these are actually from Empoli...
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 14, 2016, 05:43:28 AM
Love it !!

Looks like I may have a relative to yours   --->   CLICK HERE  (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,19499.msg112741.html#msg112741)
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: glassobsessed on April 14, 2016, 09:09:49 AM
I just last week found out that these are actually from Empoli...

Well that makes sense Ivo, I suspect there may be some sellers who won't like the news though!

John
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 14, 2016, 09:12:08 AM
This stuff has never seemed quite right for Murano IMO: quality not quite up to it and way too much about
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: mrs vulture on April 14, 2016, 10:38:45 AM
Hi Thanks for the replies,the pictures don't do it justice, it didn't cost me a lot
I've looked on some Empoli websites and can't find any similar,never seen one before.
Cheryl
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: glassobsessed on April 14, 2016, 12:04:59 PM
It was (is?) made in a whole host of shapes, various bowls predominating but there are also plenty of vases in red glass with clear twiddly handles, the sparse use of gold leaf is another feature. Nothing wrong with them at all, I did have a couple of baskets on my stall but I think I only have the one left now.
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: mrs vulture on April 14, 2016, 12:42:37 PM
So can I safely call it my Italian made bowl then?     ;D    Cheryl
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: glassobsessed on May 11, 2016, 05:33:31 PM
The basket.
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: mrs vulture on May 12, 2016, 12:08:39 PM
Your basket looks very similar. My bowl has quite heavy amounts of the gold stuff in the rim. It's gone to live under my bed until it finds a proper home!    ;D    Cheryl
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: mrs vulture on December 08, 2016, 11:23:08 AM
I got my bowl out from under the bed,  ;D   I looked at it under a jewellers loop, it's got lots of very random sized blobs of copper coloured glitter. The pieces of glitter are really tiny. Definitley copper not gold colour.  Makes a nice Christmas fruit bowl.   Cheryl
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 08, 2016, 12:23:37 PM
John's basket looks like gold though
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Post by: glassobsessed on December 09, 2016, 11:29:57 AM
Seen plenty of these over the years, they have all been made with gold leaf (probably picked up of the marver with the gather of clear glass). Yet to see one made with aventurine.

There is a good photo showing some gold on the base of a vase here, second image: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,19195.0.html
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: Paul S. on December 09, 2016, 01:40:32 PM
I can't get anything under my bed >:(             These modern divan type beds go all the way to the floor, and you'd be lucky to get a fag paper underneath.........   Cheryl, may I store some of my glass under your bed please? ;)
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: mrs vulture on December 10, 2016, 07:26:19 AM
Sorry Paul, there's no room left under there,  ;D    Have to leave room for one of my greyhounds, she gets under my side if shes frightened by fireworks etc, get yourself a nice iron framed bed, loads of room for boxes of glass or the odd dog or two.   Cheryl
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: glassobsessed on December 11, 2016, 06:40:44 PM
Saw another of these bowls today and it undoubtedly had aventurine and not gold leaf around the rim....

Ho hum!
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: Paul S. on December 12, 2016, 08:49:42 AM
John  -  any chance these particular inclusions were mica, do you think??
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: glassobsessed on December 12, 2016, 09:49:58 AM
Not in this case Paul, at least I don't think so. Mica has a silver appearance rather than yellow or gold, and usually you can see individual flakes. Again, in this case, there are small clumps of material - each of those clumps containing many small sparkly particles. One characteristic of aventurine appears to be a very small particle size - usually looking much smaller than the other possibilities.

The only time I have seen mica look yellow is when covered with amber glass, as in this jug: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,51869.0.html
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: Paul S. on December 12, 2016, 05:28:02 PM
thanks John  -  aventurine it is then.
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: keith on December 12, 2016, 05:44:41 PM
Here's another, there are more somewhere  ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: Paul S. on December 12, 2016, 07:02:39 PM
yours Keith appears to have gold inclusions, rather than aventurine Keith  -  would you agree with that?
Title: Re: Large dark red bowl,bubbles and gold aventurine rim
Post by: keith on December 12, 2016, 09:02:45 PM
That I would  ;D have a couple more somewhere one with lion head prunts, now if I could remember...... ::)