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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: msiscoe on June 17, 2016, 01:54:54 PM

Title: Glass Nude Sculpture - ID = ZBS (Zelezny Brod Sklo)
Post by: msiscoe on June 17, 2016, 01:54:54 PM: Hello, I recently purchased this Nude Sculpture, unsigned...there is one on eBay with a Verlys France signature, but I don't think that's accurate....anyone know who made it?
Title: Re: Glass Nude Sculpture
Post by: Anne Tique on June 17, 2016, 07:19:15 PM: Hello,

Just to show the item you've mentioned ... http://www.ebay.com/itm/182072971787?rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/182072971787?rmvSB=true)

I'm a little confused because, and I need to check where I've read it because it's been a while, the French items for Verlys were all marked with a Verlys France pressed signature, the Hollophane US versions just Verlys but without mentioning France and the Heisey versions weren't signed ???
Title: Re: Glass Nude Sculpture
Post by: msiscoe on June 17, 2016, 08:04:11 PM: Yes, that's correct. The French Verlys were usually signed in the mold and always included France as the country of origin.....the etched Verlys signature was unique to American Verlys....which is why I didn't believe the Ebay item was French Verlys. Someone obviously thought they could increase it's value by adding the spurious signature.
Title: Re: Glass Nude Sculpture
Post by: Ivo on June 17, 2016, 09:19:29 PM: Fostoria? Martinsville? Or one of the other US makers who found this style unresistible?
Title: Re: Glass Nude Sculpture
Post by: Ohio on June 19, 2016, 12:48:53 AM: Nope not from the U.S. I am 90% positive its old Desna I've seen before from one of the early catalogs well over a decade ago when the were running the Schlevogt stuff + additions. I cannot prove it though as unfortunately all the old Desna catalogs are long gone on line.
Title: Re: Glass Nude Sculpture
Post by: msiscoe on June 19, 2016, 05:15:53 AM: Yes, but if it were Desna glass, wouldn't it bear the Desna mark? Unless it's an original piece....
Title: Re: Glass Nude Sculpture
Post by: Ohio on June 19, 2016, 02:31:50 PM: I can tell you from personal experience that Desna did not mark any of their early glass as it was several years after production began before they even put out a catalog & thats when people started finding out their Hoffman, Schlevogt , Lalique, etc. was actually Desna.
Title: Re: Glass Nude Sculpture
Post by: msiscoe on June 19, 2016, 03:21:38 PM: I emailed Desna with photos requesting any information they could give on the piece...so we shall see what they have to say...
Title: Re: Glass Nude Sculpture
Post by: Ohio on June 19, 2016, 04:33:20 PM: Yes that was your best move. Anymore you cannot depend on them putting out currect catalogs like the used to do. Back years ago it was over 6 months after stuff started appearing that they would finally issue a catalog. I think this is the latest version.
http://preciosa-ornela.com/images/pdf/catalogue_DESNA_collection_2015_EN.pdf
Title: Re: Glass Nude Sculpture
Post by: msiscoe on June 22, 2016, 10:47:57 AM: I received a reply today from Desna regarding this piece. It was made by ZBS....Zelezny Brod Sklo....who have been defunct for around 8 years.