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Title: Davidson or Bernsdorf? - ID = Ankerglas Bernsdorf "Evelyn"
Post by: B & M on July 12, 2006, 07:51:37 PM

Hello, I just bought this vase today; http://i1.tinypic.com/1zqc0o4.jpg (Mod: image gone, see further down the topic for new pics)
from memory I thought it was a Davidson 278, however, it is in a bright green Uranium glass, not a colour I associate with Davidson.

Having looked through Pamela's site I found this vase, attributed to Bernsdorf (item 03035). The design certainly appears to match my piece, this, combined with the unusual colour of my vase convinces me that it is a Bernsdorf example.

Unfortunately I don't have a Davidson 278 to compare with. Does anybody out there have a picture of a Davidson 278 to compare the designs? I'm interested to know if they are identical or whether there are differences. Looking again, I dont remember the vertical elements in the band of decoration in the Davidson vase but not having seen one for a while I cannot be sure.

Vase measures approx. 7.5 inches high

Thanks

Steven

Title: Davidson or Bernsdorf?
Post by: Tony H on July 12, 2006, 08:54:13 PM

B & M

Take look at Chris & Val Cloud Glass site under Davidson cloud glass, Vases there are photos of some 278, this may help you. Best of luck a nice piece, if it is looking for a good home I collect Davidson!!!!

Tony H in NZ.

Title: Davidson or Bernsdorf?
Post by: B & M on July 12, 2006, 09:26:14 PM

Thanks Tony,

Sorry to disappoint you, vase isn't for sale yet, but of course I will let you know if I decide to part with it in future.

I have had a look at Chris & Val's excellent site, from what I can make out, the design is slightly different. My vase has vertical grooves where the panels meet on the body of the vase, these seem absent on the vases shown. Likewise the band of decoration on the Davidson example appears to consist of just diagonal elements making a band of repeating 'X' shapes, whereas my vase has vertical lines between the 'x's.

It seems to be another case of two glassworks producing very similar patterns: I wonder which came first?

Steven

Title: Re: Davidson or Bernsdorf?
Post by: Anne on October 17, 2009, 03:15:30 PM

Steven, your Tinypic has vanished - do you still have a copy of the pic please, and if so could you add it back onto the topic for us? :)

Title: Re: Davidson or Bernsdorf?
Post by: Mosquito on October 17, 2009, 07:11:44 PM

没问题  :)

Title: Re: Davidson or Bernsdorf?
Post by: Anne on October 17, 2009, 09:01:28 PM

Thanks Steven, much appreciated.  :thup: 

Did you manage to find a Davidson 278 to compare it with? There is a better photo of the 278 in Chris' book which shows the pattern a little clearer - it doesn't have the same verticals between the X's as yours has.

P.S. Not sure what your characters before the smiley mean as my pc just showed them as little unrecognised character blocks so I guess I don't have the right font installed.    :-[

Title: Re: Davidson or Bernsdorf?
Post by: Anne on October 17, 2009, 09:07:21 PM

Ohhhhh just found yours in the catalogue on Pamela's website!
Ankerglas Bernsdorf catalogue 1937/8 (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Ankerglas-1937-38.90+B6YmFja1BJRD05MCZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MzgyMyZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD05MCZkZXRhaWw9.0.html)

Vase no. 732, pattern name is Evelyn, 18cm diameter, 18.5cm high.   :hiclp:

Title: Re: Davidson or Bernsdorf?
Post by: pamela on October 17, 2009, 09:11:49 PM

Steven, did you write  NO PROBLEM  in chinese characters  :sleep:

Anne is right, it's  Bernsdorf EVELYN

http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/03035.html

and as far as I remember it's the shape of vase Bernard likes best  ;D

Title: Re: Davidson or Bernsdorf? - ID = Ankerglas Bernsdorf "Evelyn"
Post by: Anne on October 17, 2009, 09:14:06 PM

Pamela, I guessed it'd be Chinese but I didn't know what it said.  :kissy:

Title: Re: Davidson or Bernsdorf? - ID = Ankerglas Bernsdorf "Evelyn"
Post by: pamela on October 17, 2009, 09:16:34 PM

neither do I, it's just a guess and had a look in an old dictionary English/Chinese of 1917  8)

Title: Re: Davidson or Bernsdorf? - ID = Ankerglas Bernsdorf "Evelyn"
Post by: dirk. on October 18, 2009, 04:55:22 AM

We´ve got a picture of a Davidson to compare with here:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,28650.0.html

Rule of thumb:
2 X per panel = Davidson
1 X per panel = Bernsdorf  ;D

Title: Re: Davidson or Bernsdorf? - ID = Ankerglas Bernsdorf "Evelyn"
Post by: pamela on October 18, 2009, 04:32:30 PM

...and Bernard's thoughts of 2007, when we discussed it also  ;D
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,16021.0.html

Title: Re: Davidson or Bernsdorf? - ID = Ankerglas Bernsdorf "Evelyn"
Post by: Bernard C on May 05, 2010, 01:13:50 PM

Steven, Pamela, et al — Paul S has fitted out Janet's 278 / Evelyn collection with the correct flower holder for a Davidson 278, so they are all now legit, no M&Ms.   It only took about 12 years.

Here they are:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-12824

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-12823

Bernard C.  8)