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Title: Cenedese 'Scavo' Style Bottle
Post by: laura9797 on June 28, 2016, 03:46:21 PM

I need help identifying a large Cenedese signed 'Scavo' style bottle.  I originally (mistakenly) thought Mario Ticco  inscribed to the bottom "Maestro Mario Fiocco (I think), Cenedese Murano, (dated) 24.9.1992, Jacobson".  Approximate height 21", width 9", depth 6".  I have been looking through the Italian 'masters' list and can not find a Mario Fiocco or Tricco.  Any suggestions?  The signature has been really a beast to photograph!  Please pardon the messy desk.  I was trying to get a photograph that would also give you an idea for scale.
My images keep saying that they are too big so here are the links:
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm278/laurapmccracken/ac7c93d0-c8c7-4b25-8193-eb835be6c124_zpsy7iwz0pk.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm278/laurapmccracken/4d25a03b-20a0-4f25-aac2-9f2b8d9d78d4_zps1rgwbdky.jpg

Thanks for any suggestions!

Title: Re: Cenedese 'Scavo' Style Bottle
Post by: Ivo on June 28, 2016, 09:07:40 PM

Sorry Laura your thumbnails are really too small to see anything.  But it seems it is satinated, not Scavo.... lets see what others say,

Title: Re: Cenedese 'Scavo' Style Bottle
Post by: laura9797 on June 29, 2016, 11:15:21 AM

Thanks for looking Ivo.  I will get better photos today and see upload them to the bucket without reducing.  Would Murano glass be inscribed Cenedese if it wasn't (if it was not a fake that is)?

Title: Re: Cenedese 'Scavo' Style Bottle
Post by: laura9797 on June 30, 2016, 11:43:28 AM

Ok.....lets see if these images help any!  Thanks for looking!

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm278/laurapmccracken/cenedese2_zpsdw5uon9v.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm278/laurapmccracken/cenedese_zpswi6hhhsl.jpg

Title: Re: Cenedese 'Scavo' Style Bottle
Post by: Ivo on June 30, 2016, 12:18:03 PM

This is tricky. Yes it is satinated, not scavo. And you' re probably right about the maker. But
Mario ticco is a well known glass designer who worked for all the big Murano companies, but is no maestro, which is a master glass blower. And Mario Fiocco is a most feasible name, which does not google well.
So I think you should make some good photographs, against a white background, and send them to Cenedese. I'm sure they will be delighted to tell you who and when. Oh and while you're at it, make a good shot of the signature. We can not do much for you without this essential information.

Title: Re: Cenedese 'Scavo' Style Bottle
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 30, 2016, 01:16:50 PM

Rubbing talc or cornflour, or a fine brown powder (think spices) into the signature may help to make it legible but will wash off

Title: Re: Cenedese 'Scavo' Style Bottle
Post by: laura9797 on July 05, 2016, 02:39:18 PM

here are some better images.  I will have to try the powder/spice suggestion as well.  I am suspect regarding the signature because it is not on the polished pontil but off on the right.  Seems a bit strange to me but the signature definitely stated 'maestro'.  I will contact Cenedese as Ivo suggested.  by the way Ivo, I still keep a copy of your wonderful book handy......very lucky to have had it signed by you back in the early 'ebay' days!  Thanks again for the help. 

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm278/laurapmccracken/cenedese_zpshsvvtisx.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm278/laurapmccracken/cenedese3_zpsphsrhkd6.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm278/laurapmccracken/cenedese2_zpsgbkfotnh.jpg

Title: Re: Cenedese 'Scavo' Style Bottle
Post by: Feline on July 05, 2016, 08:38:20 PM

Hi Laura,

I tried to play with the image contrast and I also clearly read the name Mario Fiocco. I think that Ivo's suggestion is the way forward, playing with the powder would allow us to be 100% that it is written "maestro" :o