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Title: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: Patrick on July 08, 2016, 12:04:49 PM: Hi,

This appeared on the market recently and is interesting in many respects. No markings to base.

It has a flared and trailed bowl.

Thoughts welcomed.
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 08, 2016, 01:02:39 PM: Is it yours?
Do you notice a grid pattern in the strapping?

This is a range that was produced in the mid-'70s, the silver chloride crizzle pattern in the glass with teal strapping, along with the streaky-red with teal-strapping range, but is much less commonly found. Sometimes the strapping is grid-like.
I've noticed the grid pattern in the strapping on some of the red and teal things too.
I've not seen a goblet from this range before.
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: Patrick on July 08, 2016, 06:00:44 PM: Yes I did buy it just because it was unusual.......

There is a slight grid pattern but the trail mainly goes around the bowl with lighter cross paths of Teal.

Cheers,

Patrick
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: glassobsessed on July 08, 2016, 10:52:17 PM: In other shapes.
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: Patrick on July 09, 2016, 12:06:44 PM: Quote from: glassobsessed on July 08, 2016, 10:52:17 PM

In other shapes.

Superb pieces of art-glass.

Are they signed and do you have a possible date for these pieces ?

Thanks,

Patrick.
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 09, 2016, 12:27:54 PM: That attenuated bottle isn't marked, neither is my other, slightly shorter one.

The other bottle, with the flared rim, John shows is marked Mdina, in the early style of script, my other one isn't marked.
They all date to the mid-'70s onwards.
These belong in the period of interesting and complex designs that were created in the period shortly after Harris left and before Said took over completely.
(these are the other ones)
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: Patrick on July 09, 2016, 04:07:25 PM: Thanks for the extra images and your comment about possible dates......... your collection and knowledge are invaluable to me as a newbie ! :)

All best wishes,

Patrick.
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 09, 2016, 04:39:42 PM: There is this one known too.

http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1957
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1958
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 09, 2016, 08:27:12 PM: I have one of the tall straight bottles too
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1006
There is also clear strapping over crizzling http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1732
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 10, 2016, 01:22:26 PM: That is an extremely unusual one, Christine. I've never seen another. :)
There is clear strapping on clear glass with the crizzle, your cylinder is the only one I've seen with a coloured background and clear strapping.
I'm a little bit green over that one. But I do have *other* really unusual cylinders myself.
I like the cylinder vases. They're a simple but strong shape.
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 10, 2016, 01:38:06 PM: There's only clear glass, any colour is from the silver chloride crizzling (and the poor photo)
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 10, 2016, 02:02:23 PM: I know, :-* but it still resulted in a coloured background. That makes it a bit on the unique side.
Like the cocktail jug Patrick now has, all the colour comes from silver chloride - even the blues are from the silver getting into the metal of the glass, but they go green because of the yellow also produced when it reacts with the glass.
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: Patrick on July 11, 2016, 08:41:55 PM: Vicente Boffo probably introduced this trailing having used this surface decoration at Whitefriars before he left in 1970.

http://www.glassassociation.org.uk/sites/default/files/Peter%20Wheeler%20S4.jpg
Title: Re: Mdina goblet vase.
Post by: glassobsessed on July 12, 2016, 08:01:34 AM: Possibly random trailing left proud of the surface but Harris was already experimenting with trailed decoration.