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Title: Ysart Brothers?
Post by: millarart on July 20, 2016, 06:28:09 PM
bought this one today for a whopping £15 , im thinking Vasart Brothers , not best design but still a nice different one to add to collection
Title: Re: Vasart Brothers?
Post by: KevinH on July 20, 2016, 10:22:44 PM
Yes, looks right - but you made a "typo" Gary - "Ysart Brothers", not "Vasart Brothers".
Title: Re: Ysart Brothers?
Post by: millarart on July 20, 2016, 11:32:06 PM
Yes, looks right - but you made a "typo" Gary - "Ysart Brothers", not "Vasart Brothers".
oops so I have oh well I cannot correct it in the post but I see you have on title, thanks Kev, yup thought it was one of theirs and a bargain price for the unusual but untidy weight which kind of adds more appeal to the piece for me
Title: Re: Ysart Brothers?
Post by: KevinH on October 27, 2016, 03:14:31 PM
Something I should have said earlier ...

This weight shows a basic setup of a star pattern using lengths of a blue cog cane to form the star rather than a grouping of millefiori cane slices to make up the pattern. It also shows a cane set between each outer point of the star.

The feature of a cane between the points has been a standard indicator towards Paul Ysart's versions of star pattern weights, and is not known in millefiori star patterns by Salvador.

So, this basic star pattern weight with lengths of cog cane (and purely on visual features not looking like a Paul Ysart piece) shows that the "cane between star points" feature can be found in non-Paul Ysart items. Whether this weight was made by Salvador, or by one of the others at the Ysart Brothers works, is not clear. (I should add that if the weight is ever checked out with shortwave UV light and shows uo as a clear blue fluorescence then my attribution will be proven to be incorrect and we will have to call it "Vasart Ltd or later")
Title: Re: Ysart Brothers?
Post by: millarart on October 27, 2016, 03:33:40 PM
Something I should have said earlier ...

This weight shows a basic setup of a star pattern using lengths of a blue cog cane to form the star rather than a grouping of millefiori cane slices to make up the pattern. It also shows a cane set between each outer point of the star.

The feature of a cane between the points has been a standard indicator towards Paul Ysart's versions of star pattern weights, and is not known in millefiori star patterns by Salvador.

So, this basic star pattern weight with lengths of cog cane (and purely on visual features not looking like a Paul Ysart piece) shows that the "cane between star points" feature can be found in non-Paul Ysart items. Whether this weight was made by Salvador, or by one of the others at the Ysart Brothers works, is not clear. (I should add that if the weight is ever checked out with shortwave UV light and shows uo as a clear blue fluorescence then my attribution will be proven to be incorrect and we will have to call it "Vasart Ltd or later")
cheers kev , I am going to have to get another uv light and check this and the other weight and shall let you know the result