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Title: Black glass bottle flask I'd please?
Post by: bat20 on July 23, 2016, 08:39:04 PM
Hi all,this bottle is driving me nuts!,I've been all over the bottle sites without much luck so I thought I'd try here just in case somebody might have come across something similar in their glassey lives.The bottle is 7.5" ht and has two seams,the top has an applied finish,but i think later than a string type?.There are large air bubbles here and there with good wear to the base and a bit on the sides where it may have been laid on it's side.I can't really think of much else in way of a description as I'm not a bottle collector and hopefully the photos will fill in the gaps.thanks for looking.
Title: Re: Black glass bottle flask I'd please?
Post by: bat20 on July 23, 2016, 08:42:06 PM
Here's one of the base
Title: Re: Black glass bottle flask I'd please?
Post by: Anne E.B. on July 24, 2016, 10:09:21 AM
It looks like one of those guitar shaped liquor bottles from the '70s.
It looks green to me ???
Title: Re: Black glass bottle flask I'd please?
Post by: bat20 on July 24, 2016, 03:59:30 PM
Thanks for the reply Anne,if it's a 70's liquor bottle I'll start wearing mini skirts and change my name to lulu! :).I think in the bottle world this type of glass is described as black glass,even though it's true colour maybe green?.I really don't know much about bottles but I think an applied rim may take it back to the 19 th century and hinting it was blown into a Two part mould?.....I hope so any way as you really wouldn't want to see me in a mini skirt!! ;)
Title: Re: Black glass bottle flask I'd please?
Post by: Paul S. on July 24, 2016, 06:48:24 PM
and I know even less, but...............   if you try Bill Lindsey's (States) Bottle Glossary site there maybe some pointers there to indicate age.
Two piece moulds - where the base is incorporated equally on each hinged side are definitely last third C19 - but it's the finish on the neck that looks more distinctive of a slightly earlier manufacture.
This one looks to have either a rolled or folded-in strengthening to the neck - or possibly the slightly later version of a laid-on neck ring.

Date wise it does seem to be mid  ish  C19, that's of course assuming it's a genuine period bottle.     
Title: Re: Black glass bottle flask I'd please?
Post by: bat20 on July 24, 2016, 08:02:12 PM
That's about where I got to Paul using his excellent site,I've been trying to find a European historical bottle site to compare date lines for the techniques of bottle making ,unsuccessfully I'm afraid.You would have thought a similar bottle would crop up with a search since it's so distinctive and I think very much in the black glass bracket,but I still have'nt found one.I think it is the real thing because of the wear to the base and the sides,plus a lot of dirt on the inside I still have to remove,not to mention colour and the large trapped air bubbles.I would love to know what it was for,I'm guessing a spirit of some sort maybe whiskey?.
Title: Re: Black glass bottle flask I'd please?
Post by: Paul S. on July 24, 2016, 08:55:08 PM
the GMB is not really the best place to research bottles  -  there must be other forums dedicated to such things  -  did you find any on your travels?

Certainly is a fact as Anne mentions, that the fiddle-back shape was very popular in the 1970s  -  did it also occur in the C19  -  I've really no idea - bottles not my thing.             Thirty odd years ago I had a brief affair with dump digging and found very little  -  every time I located a dump it turned out to have been dug out and exhausted by all and sundry and they left me nothing. :'(
Title: Re: Black glass bottle flask I'd please?
Post by: bat20 on July 24, 2016, 09:21:27 PM
No i haven't yet,I just posted in the hope someone may have come across something like it,or even if it was something you would have bought to fill with a favourite tipple when out riding?I'll keep looking thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Black glass bottle flask I'd please?
Post by: Ivo on July 25, 2016, 07:12:19 AM
http://www.deoudeflesch.nl/

Try this one for pictures.
Title: Re: Black glass bottle flask I'd please?
Post by: bat20 on July 25, 2016, 02:57:45 PM
Thanks Ivo looks like a good site to visit.There is one thing I should mention about this bottle and that is the shape makes it very comfortable to hold,maybe a clue to it's use ?