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Title: Engraved Bohemian Small Glass
Post by: Ohio on August 03, 2016, 08:35:33 PM

HIt a home sale & while glass was nice it was priced high but as I was leaving I noticed this small engraved glass 5 1/4" height & 2 1/2" diameter. Only thing that was offered by the lady was that the glass was the oldest piece her aunt had & the aunt's mother bought it in Europe. Price was reasonable so I bought it. Heavy as the devil for its size & it rings, 8 point cut star bottom with some wear & all kinds of cutting & polished panels on the stem. Horse engraved is the older skinny head type, the dog engraving is quite small & has a funny looking man in some type of older dress apparal. Simply looking for ideas although I think Bohemian & age I don't have a clue. Appreciate the help. Ken

Title: Re: Engraved Bohemian Small Glass
Post by: Paul S. on August 03, 2016, 09:00:41 PM

it looks to be an interesting glass Ken.........    am sure you're correct about the origin, and almost certainly a goblet.              Age wise  -  assuming it is a genuine period piece  -  then my suggestion would be c. 1840 give or take a little.           Whether that is an authentic coat of arms I've no idea  -  it may have a connection to some family but equally it might be simply a form of stylized representation.
Am sure others will have better ideas.

Title: Re: Engraved Bohemian Small Glass
Post by: Ivo on August 03, 2016, 09:40:22 PM

Seconded.

Title: Re: Engraved Bohemian Small Glass
Post by: flying free on August 04, 2016, 12:49:02 AM

It is possible the coronet might be for a Marquis (or Marquess) and the dog is a Talbot Sejant I think.
Not sure if it helps at all.
The base of the foot is unusual.

m

Title: Re: Engraved Bohemian Small Glass
Post by: Ohio on August 04, 2016, 02:41:13 PM

Thanks Paul, Ivo & M. Appreciate the comments. Its just a nice well executed little glass that I needed help for.

Title: Re: Engraved Bohemian Small Glass
Post by: flying free on August 04, 2016, 06:52:11 PM

I don't know anything at all about horses, but in a document about early 19th century engraved horses, there are a few that looks like yours (the long mane etc) and are described as being arab stallions.  There is also a reference to a Carle Vernet Lithograph - nice to look on google search at those, they are pretty amazing.

This one is described as a drawing after a lithograph by Carle Vernet for example - similar mane
https://www.amazon.com/Cheval-Persan/dp/B00HEQN5CI


m

Title: Re: Engraved Bohemian Small Glass
Post by: flying free on August 04, 2016, 07:17:10 PM

see comments in post above and
here is a plate from  Harrachsche Hütte, Neuwelt c.1830
with the same or very similar petal cut design as the base of the foot on the pokal

page 16 top left
http://www.glas-forschung.info/pageone/pdf/frauenau.pdf

Title: Re: Engraved Bohemian Small Glass
Post by: Ohio on August 07, 2016, 06:53:24 PM

Thanks M.